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but we have done the same thing on all our targets, sometimes you have to overspend on big deals because if you dont, others will.
If there is no desire for that strategy then look at cheaper more affordable options rather than waste our own and other clubs time.
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I don't think the differences between the players we are looking at justifies breaking our strategy beyond its internally set limits. I mean for a one of a kind player I get it. But for any other situation, spending 1/5th more on a transfer to get them, when there may be others of near equal quality for less, seems mis-placed.
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I agree with some of that except on your no1 target, there should be a willingness to overpay on fee and wages to a certain degree.
what concerns me is if we have repeated the scenario 3 times now when there are targets available who are affordable and suitable for the team but we seem to be overlooking them for a half chance shot at others.
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The poll is too complicated
Am I happy ?
No
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Right, so first poll is obvious...
Second poll is based on this:
Situation #1
You have the final say on what happens.
You have made an offer for a player at the value at which you rate him.
You are informed that a rival club has made an offer that is (approximately) 1/5th of the price more than what you offered.
You are informed that they will not accept any value less than what is currently on the table.
You have just under 2 weeks before the transfer deadline passes.
You have the money to match the bid.
What do you do?
Obviously I have taken out options of "we make an offer in between" by doing this. Similarly, I chose to not give the option of "offering more," the potential "the player doesn't move and sits out to the deadline". This is not specific for Willian, but with that transfer in mind.
I've voted undecided because I don't know the strategy of TTC, ie, what's their next move based on information they have. I voted Other, ie, if I already have good alternatives at my values and seling team prices close to which I wanted to pay for Willian, I pull out, if not I match the price and wages. What's the use of not spending 1/5 more if I cannot sign a player that I feel is important to finish in the top 4 (basically my biggest first team target). 1/5 more (5m) on one player is not going to increase the expenditure budget by too much as a percentage, however, could be a game changer in the battle for top 4.
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I've voted undecided because I don't know the strategy of TTC, ie, what's their next move based on information they have.
I voted Other, ie, if I already have good alternatives at my values and seling team prices close to which I wanted to pay for Willian, I pull out, if not I match the price and wages. What's the use of not spending 1/5 more if I cannot sign a player that I feel is important to finish in the top 4 (basically my biggest first team target). 1/5 more (5m) on one player is not going to increase the expenditure budget by too much as a percentage, however, could be a game changer in the battle for top 4. I take your point. I suppose it all does depend on how much you rate alternatives, as it does the figure you're increasing your expenditure by.
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Firstly they are billionaire owners who like to talk like them too and secondly I quote Tom Werner - “ Liverpool certainly have the resources to compete with anyone in football.”
How are my expectations wrong with statements like that!
Well... he says we have the resources if we want to use them. We thought Willian was worth less, so we chose not to use the funds. You're mis-representing the comment.
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Not going to get into a petty spat with you mate, but the tone of the statement and surrounding comments at the time were clear to anyone what exactly he meant by it.
We have cut all over the place and BR has a ghost like squad as it is. I don't see how paying a top salary to one top player (basically going rate) whoever that maybe, classifies as 'spunking money away'. Nowhere does anyone suggest spending £150 million on 4 or 5 new players.
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I don't think the differences between the players we are looking at justifies breaking our strategy beyond its internally set limits. I mean for a one of a kind player I get it. But for any other situation, spending 1/5th more on a transfer to get them, when there may be others of near equal quality for less, seems mis-placed. Should I assume then that you think/know that the club has other as good alternatives in the Willian's price bracket and we would be signing then in this transfer window? If there were none, I don't understand why we would refuse to top up by 5m (representing approx 1m per year) for a top target, unless of course we cannot afford it.
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