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imadk #353870 09/08/13 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: imadk
I thought this was a Liverpool forum, not an England one. Get a grip mate. And to think that the general standard of English football today is better than German is mind boggling in the least.
yes but Liverpool is an English Club playing in the English League, we are not a foreign Club so why is it so wrong to want teams in our League to do well. You all bang on that you like Liverpool to be a so called global club well that's down to the English Premier League doing so well, you can't have it both ways you either want the benefits of the club playing in the best and most watched league in the world or you don't, English teams doing well enhances the League...

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Liverpool FC is a global club,well before the premier league even started. How did we sell out friendlies abroad without being still one of the biggest clubs in global football? In Melbourne (95,000+) they could have sold twice the number of tickets available at least! Celtic today in Dublin at 5pm -how many empty seats do you expect to see there?

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Originally Posted By: paulLFC
Liverpool FC is a global club,well before the premier league even started. How did we sell out friendlies abroad without being still one of the biggest clubs in global football? In Melbourne (95,000+) they could have sold twice the number of tickets available at least! Celtic today in Dublin at 5pm -how many empty seats do you expect to see there?
your wrong the Club wasn't global before the Premier League started, it had a few fans in a few countries but nowhere near on the scale English Clubs are followed now abroad and that's down to the Premier League product...

Mick Eire #354047 10/08/13 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mick Eire
your wrong the Club wasn't global before the Premier League started, it had a few fans in a few countries but nowhere near on the scale English Clubs are followed now abroad and that's down to the Premier League product...


Being a foreigner I can tell you that Liverpool was big abroad way before the Premier League era. Obviously not as big as now with all the advances in technology and football on everywhere but still big. You're absolutely wrong and unlike you, I know wtf I'm talking about.

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You both have good points, but the advance in technology is a huge factor in our fan base expansion.


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Originally Posted By: jammysht
Originally Posted By: Mick Eire
your wrong the Club wasn't global before the Premier League started, it had a few fans in a few countries but nowhere near on the scale English Clubs are followed now abroad and that's down to the Premier League product...


Being a foreigner I can tell you that Liverpool was big abroad way before the Premier League era. Obviously not as big as now with all the advances in technology and football on everywhere but still big. You're absolutely wrong and unlike you, I know wtf I'm talking about.
if you read my post properly you will see I said the Club went onto an even bigger scale once the Premier League brand took off, Liverpool were a big Club with fans in other countries but nowhere near like it is now with the Premier League product...

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Exactly!

It's always funny when people who don't know what the fück they're talking about open their big gobs.

Here in Sweden we started watching English football November 29 1969, to be precise.

This is from Wiki:

"Tipsextra was the name of the football broadcasts on Saturdays that SVT (Swedish Television) broadcasted to Sweden from the UK from 29 November 1969 to 18 March 1995. Almost all the matches were from England's top division. The season 1986/1987, attempts were made with broadcasts from the West German Bundesliga. In such a broadcast was a vote if the viewers preferred that, or English football, which resulted in a clear predominance of the latter.


Football Broadcasts from England to Sweden became a reality on Nov. 29, 1969.

In 1967 the Swedish reporter Lars-Gunnar Bjorklund (Director of Sport at Swedish Radio/TV in Gothenburg), went to England to do a program about fox hunting. After only one day there he was forced to suspend filming, when all fox hunting in the UK was suspended due to foot-and-mouth disease in the UK.

He then went and watched the football game in London between Tottenham Hotspur FC and Chelsea FC. Bjorklund realized that English football matches would be possible to show on Swedish Television, because it was not cultivated to play football in Sweden on Saturdays at this time, Sweden remained in place until Sunday, while Saturday was the most common day of play in England. Tipsextra did not compete with the Swedish first division "Allsvenskan" as Tipsextra exclusively aired from mid November to late March. Because conditions were similar in Denmark and Norway, Lars-Gunnar issued up with their Scandinavian colleagues. Swedish Radio/TV succeeded, together with DR and NRK to buy broadcasting rights from ITV for $ 1,500 per game. Swedish Radio/TV's share was $ 850 per game. Normally Tipsextra ended the season with the League Cup Final from Wembley.

The very first game of the Tipsextra show was Wolverhampton Wanderers FC against Sunderland AFC (Wolves won 1-0).

Tipsextra appeared, apart from the FA Cup final round in May, just from November to March, when there was no football season in Sweden. Some Swedish clubs were opponents of televised football to Sweden from other countries during the winter on the ground that it would take the audience from football in Sweden in the spring. During Björklund's time at Tipsextra, the program would become very popular and drew 33 to 35 percent of the Swedish viewers! The program has increased the interest in English football in Sweden.

In England, you could not see league football on TV until 16 December 1983, when "Match of the Day" came, as it was previously feared that the audience would stay home if the matches were broadcasted on TV.

SVT opted in 1995 not to continue the show Tipsextra, and from the 1995/1996 season the broadcasting was overtaken by TV 4 under the name Tip Saturday.

In their day the Tipsextra show had full attention from all the viewers in Sweden each and every winter Saturday. This had been very difficult to get today as there are now lots of TV channels showing several games a week from different countries throughout the year. The program then worked in Sweden often as a symbol of football broadcasts on television.

On November 28, 2009 were sent a 40:th anniversary on Swedish Television, among other things they broadcasted the match between Manchester United FC and West Bromwich Albion FC from the 1978/1979 season. The match took place on Dec. 30, 1978 and West Bromwich Albion FC won 5-3. Just after that match Tipsextra broadcasted the match Manchester City FC - Hull City FC from the Premier League 2009/2010."

Yeah that about sums up how the English football came to be one of the most viewed sports in Sweden ever since 1969.

By the way: Had The Premier League started back then? whistle

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Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Exactly!

It's always funny when people who don't know what the fück they're talking about open their big gobs.

Here in Sweden we started watching English football November 29 1969, to be precise.

This is from Wiki:

"Tipsextra was the name of the football broadcasts on Saturdays that SVT (Swedish Television) broadcasted to Sweden from the UK from 29 November 1969 to 18 March 1995. Almost all the matches were from England's top division. The season 1986/1987, attempts were made with broadcasts from the West German Bundesliga. In such a broadcast was a vote if the viewers preferred that, or English football, which resulted in a clear predominance of the latter.


Football Broadcasts from England to Sweden became a reality on Nov. 29, 1969.

In 1967 the Swedish reporter Lars-Gunnar Bjorklund (Director of Sport at Swedish Radio/TV in Gothenburg), went to England to do a program about fox hunting. After only one day there he was forced to suspend filming, when all fox hunting in the UK was suspended due to foot-and-mouth disease in the UK.

He then went and watched the football game in London between Tottenham Hotspur FC and Chelsea FC. Bjorklund realized that English football matches would be possible to show on Swedish Television, because it was not cultivated to play football in Sweden on Saturdays at this time, Sweden remained in place until Sunday, while Saturday was the most common day of play in England. Tipsextra did not compete with the Swedish first division "Allsvenskan" as Tipsextra exclusively aired from mid November to late March. Because conditions were similar in Denmark and Norway, Lars-Gunnar issued up with their Scandinavian colleagues. Swedish Radio/TV succeeded, together with DR and NRK to buy broadcasting rights from ITV for $ 1,500 per game. Swedish Radio/TV's share was $ 850 per game. Normally Tipsextra ended the season with the League Cup Final from Wembley.

The very first game of the Tipsextra show was Wolverhampton Wanderers FC against Sunderland AFC (Wolves won 1-0).

Tipsextra appeared, apart from the FA Cup final round in May, just from November to March, when there was no football season in Sweden. Some Swedish clubs were opponents of televised football to Sweden from other countries during the winter on the ground that it would take the audience from football in Sweden in the spring. During Björklund's time at Tipsextra, the program would become very popular and drew 33 to 35 percent of the Swedish viewers! The program has increased the interest in English football in Sweden.

In England, you could not see league football on TV until 16 December 1983, when "Match of the Day" came, as it was previously feared that the audience would stay home if the matches were broadcasted on TV.

SVT opted in 1995 not to continue the show Tipsextra, and from the 1995/1996 season the broadcasting was overtaken by TV 4 under the name Tip Saturday.

In their day the Tipsextra show had full attention from all the viewers in Sweden each and every winter Saturday. This had been very difficult to get today as there are now lots of TV channels showing several games a week from different countries throughout the year. The program then worked in Sweden often as a symbol of football broadcasts on television.

On November 28, 2009 were sent a 40:th anniversary on Swedish Television, among other things they broadcasted the match between Manchester United FC and West Bromwich Albion FC from the 1978/1979 season. The match took place on Dec. 30, 1978 and West Bromwich Albion FC won 5-3. Just after that match Tipsextra broadcasted the match Manchester City FC - Hull City FC from the Premier League 2009/2010."

Yeah that about sums up how the English football came to be one of the most viewed sports in Sweden ever since 1969.

By the way: Had The Premier League started back then? whistle
think you might find there's a few more countries than just Sweden in the world and there the countries that the Premier League has now reached especialy the Far East, Africa and India etc, not really happend in America yet but it has grown more popular than a few years ago, maybe because of Beckham too...

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Yeah yeah, but didn't you say "the Club wasn't global before the Premier League started, it had a few fans in a few countries"?

What I'm saying is that clearly it's had LOTS of fans from Denmark, Norway and Sweden ever since 1969.

Especially Norway is extremely "Liverpoolish" - or as they pronounce it: Liverpuuuul! laugh

The reaon for this is that since Tipsextra only had permission to broadcast 1 match a week, it often ended up them showing teams from top of the league. And who were up there back then?

LFC of course! smile

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Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Yeah yeah, but didn't you say "the Club wasn't global before the Premier League started, it had a few fans in a few countries"?

What I'm saying is that clearly it's had LOTS of fans from Denmark, Norway and Sweden ever since 1969.

Especially Norway is extremely "Liverpoolish" - or as they pronounce it: Liverpuuuul! laugh

The reaon for this is that since Tipsextra only had permission to broadcast 1 match a week, it often ended up them showing teams from top of the league. And who were up there back then?

LFC of course! smile
i think if you looked at the fans the Club had in all these foreign countries before SKY and the Premier league took off you would see massive, massive increases now, not saying Scandanavia didn't have fans as Ican even remember some day trippers coming over to watch games back in the 80s but now since the Premier League product has kicked in its far, far more popular...

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