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you see stanley you would get a thumbs down for saying that even though you believe it and can back up why you think that, if enough people didnt agree with you then under that criteria you would be banned. Another thing is what about posters who take a dislike to you because they don't like your posts, they could delibrately keep giving you negative thumbs down just because they want rid of you off the forum, so you see that type of system is open to much to abuse for my liking.

I guess, if that system were to come about I'd definitely be making multiple account to thumbs down all your posts

I used to be on a Forum where we only had about 60 posters who were in regularly and then that went down to 50,40,30,20 and by the time we had 10 on there it was the end as there was not enough daily activity.

The worst part of it was the close season as many people stayed away if there was no football on to report back on. Each summer we would lose a few posters and because it was like a family there were very few new members.

We had a few trolls and they were dealt with and banned and the IP addresses excluded from future use with our forum.

I think that is what made it a limited success. We actually had meets and I still email, text and facebook some of the members even though it folded about 3 years ago. I was able to obtain tickets for matches and if I managed to get some in the ballot I could pass them on if I could not travel etc.

This site is not dying but is being affected by allowing nobbers to come on here spouting drivel. Because of the larger numbers of posters here than the site I was on before and because of the way that posters can reinvent themselves it is harder to build up a friend or foe image of posters on here.

I come to post and have a bit of banter with fans of the club. Hopefully that can be in a positive way. Whilst some views may seem negative to me they are not negative to other posters.

Each time a certain poster comes on here or comes back we will lose a couple of posters who will walk away or get themselves banned. This is what this poster is trying to do and he is succeeding I'm afraid.

On this old site we had pm facility which meant that we could chat in private with each other off the main boards. That way any troll could be smoked out ignored and banned quite quickly. Here their views are seen by all and there is no plan to exclude them.

On other sites far less friendly than on here they would be chewed up and spat out before being banned. On here I think we are too easily primed to be wound up and although not entirely friendly society there is a bit of banter.

Eventually our old site set up an internal second board. It was a place that you could go to on invitation only. We became the Gold members and the people who were not gold members were not invited for a reason. That was because they were trolls or were known trouble makers. This in turn did lead to the demise of our board as the numbers dwindled much in the same way as life goes. You find new things to do, your life changes, you do different things, you have other priorities. You fall out with people much the same way you do in real life and friends become not enemies but people who you want nothing to do with.

I went on some horrible Liverpool fans sites before coming here. Places where if you were new you were taken apart or not allowed into discussion. Banter was always at your expense rather than allowing you to join in. Just because you all support the same team does not automatically qualify us to all like each other.

The place I used to go to was probably too heavily sanitised although we were allowed to swear as much as we liked and we did not allow kids in. This was due to the by invitation policy. But in its peak it was a very very vibrant board.

This is the nearest I have found to it since and is why have stayed here for a couple of years. We made up some games on there which we played weekly and we had a pinned threads board for weekly challenges.

If idiots are allowed to come in and keep coming back they will eventually take this place down as we know it. There will be other posters who come in and start their own stuff but it will not be like the place it was.

I like this place but like the team I support I want for better.

The difference is that although I and others have disagreed with people like Stanley with the ticket prices/FSG and Faz with his Souness thread, I seriously doubt that any poster has actual animosity against them given that they present their view because it's their view rather than bait.

The thing that gets me is that when someone posts there view saying 'well this might work..' or 'I believe if this happens..' or just there views on something be a transfer, owners ,new signing, selling player ect. that has a hint of positivity its always answered by mainly 1 user with 'nope that not going to work we are doomed, we're mid table, going nowhere, thats blind faith' with no explaination as to how they think we can move forward other than 'we need to spend as much as City and Chelsea'

Where do we get this money from then ? personally if you dont agree with someone why not suggest how you think the club can go forward. There is enough explaination behind some posts.

Why? That is my point.

You offer the opinion but have no reasoning. No debate.
FSG are trying to build the finances, the team, the stadium. How can you say its a fair opinion if you don't offer any reasoning to it?
Its like a child wanting something because they just do.

Another thing. On the site I used to go on the thread last night would have got shut down pretty quick once the insults were being traded. As I say we were allowed to swear but any attack using bad language directly AT a person was not allowed.

The mods had far more power but were rarely called upon to act and were part of the forum. The admin were also a big part of the general forum and were successful in keeping arguments down to a minimum.

The way people talk to each other on here is a disgrace and half the threads should be closed down in my opinion.

Once people start trying to kill off threads with the same story over and over again they should be locked for the sake of other posters and then IP banned for deliberately goading certain people into argument.

I find that there are certain posters I will not bother to answer. The issue is that once one or two get on their hook the subject becomes an argument, goes off topic for several pages and impossible to get back on track.

Scainer FSG are building the team the stadium really ?

We are buying younger potentilly better value players from what I can see but whether that will push us to champions league remains to be seen. As for the stadium I see no progress at all other than vague promises to redevelop anfield at some point. We already had well advanced stadium plans including a planning application before these guys took over the club.

Is that enough reasoning for you ?

The Stadium is no nearer to being started than under Hicks and Gillette, I drive past it every day and believe me there is no spade in the ground, can I say that or am I baiting, the next thing is FSG building the team up, how is this when we are getting shut of higher earners with experience and bringing in substandard players on alot less how can these cost cutting measures bridge the gap between ourselves and the top four, can I say that or am I baiting, the next thing is the top four, all our top four rivals have more money and power, play champions league every season and can attract the top players not to mention give them top wages, we can't and every season away from the top four is a season harder to get near, this for me is the future unless we get owners willing to match the top four pound for pound, can I say that or am I being too negative or baiting. Just my thoughts...

this is the only site i use, ive made a few stupid comments but ive ignored hundreds, people get offended too easily, or get worked up to easily. i dont wind people up but there are people that i know i can have a discussion with.

you get the odd few people who are there to just annoy you but i dont respond, and that ends the conversation.