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This is no post to slander on FSG, only an indication of the state at which they received the club, and the impact they have had to make on reducing the wage bill to a more manageable level. You may have your own take, but it is clear that the club was running unsustainably, and if we still want to compete for signings financially, then we needed to help fund that internally.

How Liverpool have cut HALF A MILLION from their weekly wage bill
By This Is Anfield on July 31, 2013

The decision to loan Pepe Reina to Napoli, coupled with the reported potential loan move of Martin Skrtel to the Italian side, has been met with criticism from some sections of the Liverpool support.


MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA - Wednesday, July 24, 2013
Liverpool's Martin Skrtel in action against Melbourne Victory during a preseason friendly match at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
(Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)


The truth is though, that Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group are applying financial sense by offloading high-earning players whose place within the squad is not proportionate to their salary.

Martin Skrtel is on a reported £70,000 per week, yet he is not considered a starting player under Brendan Rodgers. The club would have been happy to sell the Slovakian this summer had the right offer arrived. So far it hasn’t, and thus they are happy to remove his wages and therefore free up a place within the squad. You can’t simply keep a player on 70 grand a week just to make up numbers – especially when you aren’t in Europe.

Similarly, Reina was on a reported £100,000 per week wage. Once the decision to sign Simon Mignolet – whether you agree with it or not – was made, it would have been absurd to pay a reserve keeper that amount – one of the highest earners at the club.

Another player to have left the club this summer, although under entirely different circumstances, is Jamie Carragher. The legendary defender was on a similar wage to Reina.

That’s over a quarter of a million pounds removed from the weekly wage bill already.

It was reported early on after their acquisition of the club that FSG were shocked by the size of Liverpool’s wage bill, especially players on vast wages who were not key members of the squad.

What Liverpool want now is for a player’s wages to match his worth within the squad. That’s why tough decisions must be made.

Take Stewart Downing, reportedly on £70,000 per week but despite an improved second half of last season, not viewed as a key player and could be even less so this season after new arrivals. If the right bid arrived, it would make sense to sell him.

Another high value departure this summer has been Andy Carroll, on a reported £85,000 per week.

Add in the sale of Jonjo Shelvey, imminent departures of Ousamma Assaidi and Jay Spearing and you have a total of all those who have left the club this summer of around half a million pounds per week. Over £20m per year.

This follows on from last year were high-earners Alberto Aquilani (£90k), Joe Cole (£90k), Dirk Kuyt (£70k), Maxi (£70k), Craig Bellamy (£70K) and Charlie Adam (£50k) have also left the club. Add that together and the total amount saved per week following departures in the last year is closer to one million pounds.

Of course, Liverpool have signed players during this time and given improved contracts to key players such as Luis Suarez, Daniel Agger and Steven Gerrard. The point is that those three are on contracts that are in accordance with their place within the squad.

Next time you hear somebody moaning about loaning out Martin Skrtel, a player who started FOUR Premier League games since the turn of the year, think of the bigger picture.

Remember what owner John Henry wrote in his open letter to the fans almost a year ago:

We will build and grow from within, buy prudently and cleverly and never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees and unrealistic wages. We have no fear of spending and competing with the very best but we will not overpay for players.

We will never place this club in the precarious position that we found it in when we took over at Anfield. This club should never again run up debts that threaten its existence.

Liverpool are building sensibly and economically. It takes patience and perspective to see this – which is often in short supply among some supporters.


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They're going to have to pay for Anfield re-developments somehow. The overall strength of the squad hasn't diminished so far as well. Some of the wages were ludicrous.

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Get all that J and agree with much of this strategy and your view on it IF Henry is sincere. But where I will vehemently fracture from Henry/FSG is that every expensive player is an inflated transfer or that you will build a Premier league winning side on only guys who are young and cost less than £12 million or so.


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Originally Posted By: jjmelling

This is no post to slander on FSG, only an indication of the state at which they received the club, and the impact they have had to make on reducing the wage bill to a more manageable level. You may have your own take, but it is clear that the club was running unsustainably, and if we still want to compete for signings financially, then we needed to help fund that internally.

How Liverpool have cut HALF A MILLION from their weekly wage bill
By This Is Anfield on July 31, 2013

The decision to loan Pepe Reina to Napoli, coupled with the reported potential loan move of Martin Skrtel to the Italian side, has been met with criticism from some sections of the Liverpool support.


MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA - Wednesday, July 24, 2013
Liverpool's Martin Skrtel in action against Melbourne Victory during a preseason friendly match at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
(Pic by David Rawcliffe/Propaganda)


The truth is though, that Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group are applying financial sense by offloading high-earning players whose place within the squad is not proportionate to their salary.

Martin Skrtel is on a reported £70,000 per week, yet he is not considered a starting player under Brendan Rodgers. The club would have been happy to sell the Slovakian this summer had the right offer arrived. So far it hasn’t, and thus they are happy to remove his wages and therefore free up a place within the squad. You can’t simply keep a player on 70 grand a week just to make up numbers – especially when you aren’t in Europe.

Similarly, Reina was on a reported £100,000 per week wage. Once the decision to sign Simon Mignolet – whether you agree with it or not – was made, it would have been absurd to pay a reserve keeper that amount – one of the highest earners at the club.

Another player to have left the club this summer, although under entirely different circumstances, is Jamie Carragher. The legendary defender was on a similar wage to Reina.

That’s over a quarter of a million pounds removed from the weekly wage bill already.

It was reported early on after their acquisition of the club that FSG were shocked by the size of Liverpool’s wage bill, especially players on vast wages who were not key members of the squad.

What Liverpool want now is for a player’s wages to match his worth within the squad. That’s why tough decisions must be made.

Take Stewart Downing, reportedly on £70,000 per week but despite an improved second half of last season, not viewed as a key player and could be even less so this season after new arrivals. If the right bid arrived, it would make sense to sell him.

Another high value departure this summer has been Andy Carroll, on a reported £85,000 per week.

Add in the sale of Jonjo Shelvey, imminent departures of Ousamma Assaidi and Jay Spearing and you have a total of all those who have left the club this summer of around half a million pounds per week. Over £20m per year.

This follows on from last year were high-earners Alberto Aquilani (£90k), Joe Cole (£90k), Dirk Kuyt (£70k), Maxi (£70k), Craig Bellamy (£70K) and Charlie Adam (£50k) have also left the club. Add that together and the total amount saved per week following departures in the last year is closer to one million pounds.

Of course, Liverpool have signed players during this time and given improved contracts to key players such as Luis Suarez, Daniel Agger and Steven Gerrard. The point is that those three are on contracts that are in accordance with their place within the squad.

Next time you hear somebody moaning about loaning out Martin Skrtel, a player who started FOUR Premier League games since the turn of the year, think of the bigger picture.

Remember what owner John Henry wrote in his open letter to the fans almost a year ago:

We will build and grow from within, buy prudently and cleverly and never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees and unrealistic wages. We have no fear of spending and competing with the very best but we will not overpay for players.

We will never place this club in the precarious position that we found it in when we took over at Anfield. This club should never again run up debts that threaten its existence.

Liverpool are building sensibly and economically. It takes patience and perspective to see this – which is often in short supply among some supporters.


http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/07/how...ekly-wage-bill/



As long as it allows us to win trophies I have no problems at all with that. I am sure we can further reduce the wage bill and have a team to finish regularly in the mid-table not being able to compete for top 4, my point being, reducing the wage bill should not be the end in itself.

Coming back to both Skrtel and Reina, these players never started with those kind of salaries when they were bought, they got those increases when their contract was re-negotiated and at that time were assumed good value for money, else they would have left. In fact Skrtel contract was renegotiated only last year when both FSG/BR were in the driving seat, who gave him that increase, was that another mistake by the tandem? Does this mean that we will loan out Agger next year if he doesn't perform as expected by I suppose BR? Would also be interesting to know who decides and how that a player is earning more than he should.

For me this article says a lot about the financial sustainability/profit making potential of LFC rather than competitiveness to win trophies. It's true that as fans we want our team to win trophies but as shareholders we would like to see returns/profits.

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We had to cut the wage bill but agree with vish if that's all that's done then it will take us nowhere.

FSG have not or are unwilling to invest in the club to the extent needed. That's the bottom line they want a world class billion pound plus club but without doing the hard bit.

Things don't work like that especially prem football

Mid table for years I expect with these guys


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John Henry did say that the club had no fear of spending and competing with the very best. He said he was shocked by the state the wage bill and expenditure on back-up players was so high.

I think it isn't about making profit, and more about ensuring lots of money is always available to spend, irrespective of on-field success. Missing out on the top four, before they came in, meant selling players to buy. Now, we have money to spend irrespective of that. I think the onus is on "self supporting" not "self-involved profiteering."

I also don't think it would have been such a big cull in a couple of years, if the club wasn't also trying to self-fund the stadium expansion.

As I say, I do agree, and I suppose most people will probably do this when playing games mimicking real-life management like Football Manager... You might need to move on some high earners to ensure you can spend more money immediately. These owners are doing it to ensure we can do that for an extended period. They have just done so with their Red Sox team, and they are currently 1st/2nd? Their record of making a success is good. I think this is the time to be cautiously optimistic, rather than heedless pessimism...

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The best way forward is to have a decent basic wage coupled with performance based bonuses. This allows the top performers to get a good wage without the donkeys costing us money needlessly. Obviously this takes power away from the players but quite frankly it's obscene the way things are going.

This would clearly have a hit on the attractiveness of the club for certain types of player, but do we really want the club full of Cashley Coles?

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Originally Posted By: jammysht
The best way forward is to have a decent basic wage coupled with performance based bonuses. This allows the top performers to get a good wage without the donkeys costing us money needlessly. Obviously this takes power away from the players but quite frankly it's obscene the way things are going.

This would clearly have a hit on the attractiveness of the club for certain types of player, but do we really want the club full of Cashley Coles?


That wage structure with performance bonus already exists in most clubs, however, top players usually have high fixed wages as well as bonuses in the very inflated wage market.

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the thing is, big players come with big wages. You could never get world class players on small wages.


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