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I think the best thing to do would be to bring in another striker like soldado show that we mean business and that were not putting all our eggs in one basket hoping suarez will stay we will be in a comfortable position with a replacement and dictate when and what suarez goes for.
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If FSG know that there is a clause, JH surely wouldn't tweet such an emphatic rejection. That makes no sense. It would appear that the clause either does not exist OR is too loosely worded to function as Suarez believes - ie, again, it doesn't exist.
If there is no clause, we have to keep him for at least one more year.
Selling to a rival would be a disaster. If we can keep him and subsequently gain a top 4 finish and get through the prelims etc, our future, with or without Suarez, looks totally different. We can then look to recruit from the top table without having to pay silly money. I would sooner Suarez sulked on the bench than joined Arsenal. Depriving Arsenal of their top target is the most important aspect of the process. If we sell - even at £55M we'll not be able to replace him and the psychological impact on our squad may be seriously problematic.
When RVP left Arsenal they struggled to find any form, or impetus, for ages. I think that AW realises that if he succeeds in pulling LS from us, he'll remove us as a threat, completely - no matter how we re-invest. LS may not be bigger than the club BUT he is one of the best players in the world and can make a massive difference. The reason AW is looking at such a huge investment is because in making it, it will so damage a genuine rival as well as strengthening his team. The RVP experience will have taught him that.
The only way I'd sell Suarez to Arsenal, is if we can sign Bale (or Messi) as a replacement - which obviously is NOT going to happen.
I'd decline £60M if I were FSG. At the end of the day, if we sell Suarez to Arsenal, that leaves FSG as possibly more damaged than H and G. I think it would be difficult to have any belief in any plan they'd purport to have - and that would fatally effect our ability to sign players from here on. The viability of the whole FSG project is, to me, in the balance. If they see Arsenal off, on this one, it will be like signing a new player and will also punch a hole in Arsenal's plans.
I think we're going to find out just what kind of people FSG are. If they really are ambitious, they'll find a way of keeping LS for another season.
The Torres comparison doesn't stack up. Torres was not in any form when we sold him. LS leaving would be far more of a problem.
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If FSG know that there is a clause, JH surely wouldn't tweet such an emphatic rejection. That makes no sense. It would appear that the clause either does not exist OR is too loosely worded to function as Suarez believes - ie, again, it doesn't exist.
If there is no clause, we have to keep him for at least one more year.
Selling to a rival would be a disaster. If we can keep him and subsequently gain a top 4 finish and get through the prelims etc, our future, with or without Suarez, looks totally different. We can then look to recruit from the top table without having to pay silly money. I would sooner Suarez sulked on the bench than joined Arsenal. Depriving Arsenal of their top target is the most important aspect of the process. If we sell - even at £55M we'll not be able to replace him and the psychological impact on our squad may be seriously problematic.
When RVP left Arsenal they struggled to find any form, or impetus, for ages. I think that AW realises that if he succeeds in pulling LS from us, he'll remove us as a threat, completely - no matter how we re-invest. LS may not be bigger than the club BUT he is one of the best players in the world and can make a massive difference. The reason AW is looking at such a huge investment is because in making it, it will so damage a genuine rival as well as strengthening his team. The RVP experience will have taught him that.
The only way I'd sell Suarez to Arsenal, is if we can sign Bale (or Messi) as a replacement - which obviously is NOT going to happen.
I'd decline £60M if I were FSG. At the end of the day, if we sell Suarez to Arsenal, that leaves FSG as possibly more damaged than H and G. I think it would be difficult to have any belief in any plan they'd purport to have - and that would fatally effect our ability to sign players from here on. The viability of the whole FSG project is, to me, in the balance. If they see Arsenal off, on this one, it will be like signing a new player and will also punch a hole in Arsenal's plans.
I think we're going to find out just what kind of people FSG are. If they really are ambitious, they'll find a way of keeping LS for another season.
The Torres comparison doesn't stack up. Torres was not in any form when we sold him. LS leaving would be far more of a problem.
Possibly the most eloquent and well thought out post I've ever read on Koptalk and I very much agree with the sentiment. +1million
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We want him gone now, it's too far gone, we can't keep an unhappy player as it doesn't make sense, the vile person has made his feelings clear on many occasions that he wants out, we are even at the stage that I think he would sign for Spurs rather than stay with us, his body language the other day in Melbourne stunk. I just think its up to us to try and force him out by letting our feelings known he is not bigger than the club, we don't want players here who dont want to play for us and most importantly we don't wanting him taking the p*ss out of us fans and club anymore, enough is enough.
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We want him gone now, it's too far gone, we can't keep an unhappy player as it doesn't make sense, the vile person has made his feelings clear on many occasions that he wants out, we are even at the stage that I think he would sign for Spurs rather than stay with us, his body language the other day in Melbourne stunk. I just think its up to us to try and force him out by letting our feelings known he is not bigger than the club, we don't want players here who dont want to play for us and most importantly we don't wanting him taking the p*ss out of us fans and club anymore, enough is enough. speak for yourself!
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The window would be closed by the time his ban was over, so even if he wants to go on strike, let him sulk. It won't do him any good if the window's shut. If he really wants a move, let him earn it.
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We want him gone now, it's too far gone, we can't keep an unhappy player as it doesn't make sense, the vile person has made his feelings clear on many occasions that he wants out, we are even at the stage that I think he would sign for Spurs rather than stay with us, his body language the other day in Melbourne stunk. I just think its up to us to try and force him out by letting our feelings known he is not bigger than the club, we don't want players here who dont want to play for us and most importantly we don't wanting him taking the p*ss out of us fans and club anymore, enough is enough. Got to agree, though he wouldn't join spurs. This we have to hold onto him stuff is nonsense. He is being horrible about it to force a move and there is no point lowering ourselves to the same kind of behavior. Sure we will be worse without him but we'd be more damaged with him. Need to cleanse ourselves of him, we stuck by him yet he is a racist and an arm biter who wants to join a rival club. We need to get rid not hang on.
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I've noticed that people who claim 'we want this' and 'we want that' on here are usually only portraying their own opinions, how can they possibly claim to be able to represent 'our' views. Most people I know and have spoken to regarding Suarez do NOT want to see him leave and certainly not to Arsenal. However, I'm sure a lot of people have started to accept that it now at least looks inevitable. The point is, if Suarez is to leave, it absolutely must be on our terms and not his. All this 'take the £40million and wash your hands of him' is just so silly and it certainly won't benefit Liverpool FC.
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Fantastic post from D500. Mick, speak for yourself.
I personally dont believe he would either strike in a season prior to the world cup, or sulk when he knows he needs to be playing at his best for Madrid to come calling at the next opportunity. Let's see how this pans out. I believe he may well be gone but I doubt FSG are dumb enough to sell to arsenal. If they do, he will be replaced but the damage will be far greater than if sold to madrid and the gap will widen.
I might have to slag them off if they do that and no one wants to see or hear that so, listen up mr.Henry, watch your next move!
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I have to replicate the sentiments towards D500s post. Very interesting way of looking at the SS.
I said, and continue to disbelieve, that Arsenal would make an offer with real intent to buy far over £25M. Given Rodgers comments about adjusting our player to suit and mould around him, the idea that Wenger would be taking away our irreplaceable all but holds true. Even if I doubt the real intent behind that, it has given me much food for thought.
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