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Not just about transfer money though is it ?


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Not just about transfer money though is it ?

no its not but when the club have it its not good to waste it is it like previous regimes not just dalglish .

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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I think there is a difference between patience for a club, and patience for new owners/managers/players though Stanley. The club, has waited a long time for success. FSG, as owners, haven't. They should be afforded the same time as every other club gives owners trying to make big changes to the inside of a club. Scrutinize every year if you wish, that can be anyone's prerogative. I personally feel blaspheming after 3 years is a little juvenile, immature, counter-intuitive and counter active. It helps no-one; and I really don't see any justification for up-rooting them as owners.
Well that's your opinion I think three years is more than enough. And what a three years foul up after foul up on the appointment of Rodgers was the first period of stability and by then the gap between us and the top four widened. What is it you see that I don't ? We are building for the future ? You think the other clubs are not ? There is a lot of talk about cities big transfers but you never hear of the youth academy the club are building. Liverpool FC are light years behind our manchester rivals if you can't see that then you are either kidding yourself or its another Liverpool FC you follow.

Fans are either going to accept that FSG are not going to fund the club with their own capital or they're not. I really don't care. What I do care for is realistic ambitions, and not wild suggestions about what could have been. In reality, our squad has not been strong enough to compete regularly at any point since I have been a fan. We have always been "a player", "two players", "three players" short, and now we're in the process of ensuring there is a competitive squad, there is criticism because success isn't instant.

This belief that 3 seasons is enough doesn't take account of facts, that FSG uprooted Hodgson after he let standards slip badly. That they did give Dalglish a lot of money to spend, that was spent badly. That FSG saw the errors in their judgements and acted quickly to stop Comolli and Dalglish mis-spending more of the money the club was making. Argue all day until you're blue in the face, but in terms of long-term strategy on rebuilding the club, this year, is FSG's first of not trying to make up the distance with money, and it has brought improvements. Maybe not in terms of league position, but in terms of goals, yes, goals conceded, the same, and the motivation in the players, astronomically. We've been consistent this last half-season, we've signed well since the implementation of the committee. If we don't sell Suarez, we'll be retaining, arguably, the best player in the league. We have players back from injuries - Allen, Borini, Kelly, Lucas...

It is NOT ABOUT OTHER CLUBS. We're talking about improving ourselves. Do you think Utd worried when Chelsea and Utd started spending mega-money, or did they just continue to work hard to win titles. Which they continued to do despite all of this spending by others. Utd have proven over the last 20 years that just buying big-name high value players across an entire squad isn't necessary. Evans, Smalling, Jones, Nani, Anderson, Cleverley, Welbeck... Most of these players wouldn't be near our squad. Build a SQUAD of players, not a TEAM OF EGOS. We have competition in the team. We have talent in already this summer, that people are already writing off, and we have word from our manager that we're working on bringing in players now to improve our first XI. Given them some f'ing time to do that this summer. For a fan-base known for giving managers time to turn things around, anybody telling Rodgers or FSG to go is clearly giving up hope, patience and faith. Less YNWA, and more CBBW - Can't be bothered walking. It is not even the end of July. The pessimistic fans might as well be on death-row with the comments that our chance of success is already written off. It is not realism. Not in the slightest.

I'm not kidding myself about them or their ambition. I base it on their past success in turning around under-performing clubs. I base it on much more than a pts tally, transfer spending and a league place, which is all you're actually doing... We got less than 65 pts, we have less than £100m to spend, and we were 7th. Sack them all. It's horrendous. It's a bit fickle to be honest. Every business manager that isn't at the very top must slit their wrists every year if that is the way you look at it, and by proxy, you think everyone should.

I am taking a patient view to giving FSG, Rodgers, and the committee time to change our fortunes. If you lot don't want to, fine, but your proof that they're purely in it for money, that they don't have the club at heart, and that the club have not become more resilient or improved have no grounding whatsoever. Prove it, and I can see the viewpoint... Nobody basing it on facts, rather than the media, believes our chances of finishing 4th are over now.

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Just wait till them Qatar's invest.


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As much as anyone else, they are considering investing in a PL team and Liverpool are pushing hard to get it.


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Wishfull thinking?

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The facts are we finished 7th last season

My guess for the future is as good as yours and facts only exist for the past unless you have a time machine.

My guess we will hover around 8th to 5th for the foreseeable future. Not nearly good enough and in my view we need less patience and more expectations from fans. Otherwise we will be being patient indefinitely


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Originally Posted By: wakka
Just wait till them Qatar's invest.



Apparently there is no need for them all we have to do is be patient and say positive things About FSG and all will be fine.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: wakka
Just wait till them Qatar's invest.



Apparently there is no need for them all we have to do is be patient and say positive things About FSG and all will be fine.


What have you been smoking? Haven't you noticed that we comfortably won our last 3 games, even our defence is great now. We are already fine.

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I think we should all bash FSG and the team, cause that will get us moving up the table. You lot are hopeless.

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