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Well, that's any manager except someone like Ferguson. Even Wenger, as long as he's been there, is an employee of his club and is subject to board decisions.
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Brendan Rodgers has confirmed that Pepe Reina in on the brink of joining Napoli on a season-long loan with Liverpool FC keen to get the Spaniard's £5.5million annual salary off their wage bill.
The Reds boss says the club couldn't justify paying Reina £110,000 per week in order to sit on the bench following the £9million signing of Simon Mignolet.
His temporary move to the Serie A outfit, which will see him reunited with former Kop boss Rafa Benitez, is expected to go through in the next 24 hours.
“FINANCIALLY IT IS SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT,” RODGERS SAID.
“THAT WOULD BE THE REASON BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULDN’T MOVE ON A TOP GOALKEEPER.
“IT REARED ITS HEAD OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND I HAD TO PREPARE FOR IT BY BRINGING IN A NEW GOALKEEPER.
“Pepe is a good guy. I’ve a lot of time for him, and he understands what I want to do totally.
“He’s got a big season ahead because it’s a World Cup year and one where, if he wasn’t going to be playing, could severely harm his chances of going.” It’s been clear pretty much from the start that Brendan Rodgers is not in control of what players are signed or what players are moved out to save on wages, and from his quotes above it’s pretty obvious that he was told Reina was to be moved. These decisions are all made far away from Anfield, based on financial, age and performance analysis similar to that outlined in recent posts by JJ. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me to see BR walk if this kind of financially driven decision making, continues to thwart his ambition to successfully break into the top four. Not many managers would tolerate that kind of interference and it’ll speak volumes about him if he’s happy to sit, season on season, in mid-table and take the money. Not going to happen thankfully. FSG and Rogers have this season to prove they are both up to it or the stadium fans will call time. If it blows up before a ball is kicked with a few transfers and it appears out of his control (which can happen) he may get 5th place as leeway, otherwise I don't see it ends well if we are out of it with a third of the season remaining I expect a Roy Hodgson type atmosphere to develop. If FSG think people are going to put up with 7th again for a nice profit sheet I think they are misjudging a few thousand fans by the Brooklyn Bridge or more.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
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Well, that's any manager except someone like Ferguson. Even Wenger, as long as he's been there, is an employee of his club and is subject to board decisions. I don't think it's the same type of control, yes all managers need to work within boundaries, but more high level, like budget for transfers and wages, not age, sell on value etc. Looks to me that BR is more like a coach than a General Manager as in American baseball.
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I don't know. Arsenal fans have been making basically the same complaints we have in terms of being forced to sell their best players and not making "marquee signings" for years. The only difference is they still get CL, even if they never get anywhere in it.
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I don't know. Arsenal fans have been making basically the same complaints we have in terms of being forced to sell their best players and not making "marquee signings" for years. The only difference is they still get CL, even if they never get anywhere in it. You think there is a committee taking decisions at Arsenal, I doubt it, Arsene would have fcuked them and gone long ago
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Do you think BR isn't making decisions here? You think this committee decided to sign Borini, Sturridge, and Allen? All players he knows? Unlikely. This "committee" is probably just the scouting team/consulting us. I doubt the buck stops there.
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If any of you guys want to read the truth about why Reina has gone, stop trying to draw conclusions from words that BR has said to the press, given less than a month ago, he was saying Reina and Mignolet would be competing. I do believe Rodgers wants competition in every position. That doesn't mean to say I didn't contemplate that a) Reina might have to leave to fund that, and b) it might not be possible in 1 transfer window. Managers at clubs that are run well have a number of people contributing thoughts, ideas and facts. The fact of the matter is, a goalkeeper in form, nearing his peak, performing better consistently than your current option and on lower wages is better than a guy who wanted to leave, has under-performed and on very high wages. Kop-o-logy is a great account on twitter I follow closely. https://twitter.com/KopologyHis comments on Reina are: "Reina has been on the wages of a World Class goalkeeper while performing like a mid-table one for at least three years. He had baulked up and lost confidence. That improved somewhat this season, but not to the point that he got back to his best. It is crystal clear that Reina wanted to go, if not this year than next, so Rodgers and the club were smart and acted quickly. We now have a quality young keeper on relatively low wages, and one on loan with a good club and manager who will be sold within a year. The Simon Mignolet of today is younger, cheaper AND better than the Pepe Reina of today. TODAY. Not the past. Stop being reactionary. I find it quite interesting that some people who make very clear how much they hate Tories, are actually quite like them in their attitudes. I keep using the word 'reactionary'. In political terms it means hankering after the past. The "good old days" before women could vote, etc. A return to old values, or a time and situation gone by. I think a lot of the ire directed at Rodgers and FSG is dressed up as something political, when it's actual just opposition to change. The funniest thing I've seen said is that FSG are asset stripping. LFC now have two assets, Reina and Mignolet. If we sold one player and loaned another in as a replacement, that might look like asset striping. The opposite is, well, the opposite. For what it's worth, I actually think Reina will do well at Napoli and in his career moving onwards. Some times players just need a move."I don't think they're too far off my own.
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Do you think BR isn't making decisions here? You think this committee decided to sign Borini, Sturridge, and Allen? All players he knows? Unlikely. This "committee" is probably just the scouting team/consulting us. I doubt the buck stops there. Not Borini and Allen but Sturridge and Coutinho as the committee was introduced after the last summer window, this is what has been said even by BR.
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If any of you guys want to read the truth about why Reina has gone, stop trying to draw conclusions from words that BR has said to the press, given less than a month ago, he was saying Reina and Mignolet would be competing. I do believe Rodgers wants competition in every position. That doesn't mean to say I didn't contemplate that a) Reina might have to leave to fund that, and b) it might not be possible in 1 transfer window. Managers at clubs that are run well have a number of people contributing thoughts, ideas and facts. The fact of the matter is, a goalkeeper in form, nearing his peak, performing better consistently than your current option and on lower wages is better than a guy who wanted to leave, has under-performed and on very high wages. Kop-o-logy is a great account on twitter I follow closely. https://twitter.com/KopologyHis comments on Reina are: "Reina has been on the wages of a World Class goalkeeper while performing like a mid-table one for at least three years. He had baulked up and lost confidence. That improved somewhat this season, but not to the point that he got back to his best. It is crystal clear that Reina wanted to go, if not this year than next, so Rodgers and the club were smart and acted quickly. We now have a quality young keeper on relatively low wages, and one on loan with a good club and manager who will be sold within a year. The Simon Mignolet of today is younger, cheaper AND better than the Pepe Reina of today. TODAY. Not the past. Stop being reactionary. I find it quite interesting that some people who make very clear how much they hate Tories, are actually quite like them in their attitudes. I keep using the word 'reactionary'. In political terms it means hankering after the past. The "good old days" before women could vote, etc. A return to old values, or a time and situation gone by. I think a lot of the ire directed at Rodgers and FSG is dressed up as something political, when it's actual just opposition to change. The funniest thing I've seen said is that FSG are asset stripping. LFC now have two assets, Reina and Mignolet. If we sold one player and loaned another in as a replacement, that might look like asset striping. The opposite is, well, the opposite. For what it's worth, I actually think Reina will do well at Napoli and in his career moving onwards. Some times players just need a move."I don't think they're too far off my own. My problem is, changing keeper right now was not a priority and was changed because of Reina's high wages, not for footballing reasons. FSG thought that Reina would hand a transfer request that never came
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