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I would add, FSG wants LFC to compete in the cheapest possible way, not sure yet how or rather if FFP will work (when I see City spending for instance), what they did last year was even irresponsible and we were lucky Suarez didn't get injured. Will see how right they are, so far, we have had the worst outcome in years I can remember, since they took over, that is a fact, 6th, 8th 7th finish. When did we have that in the past, can't remember.

That's all very well as long as a decent price is gained afterwards. How many times already have we had loan deals end in a train wreck later. He won't want to return to the club, his contract will have dwindled down to little remaining and they will accept a low ball offer with little choice.

Whilst you make some good points as to their philosophy (which has Newcastle about it) it is still to be seen whether it's a good move. I also agree with the sentiment that there is yet more BS about the reasons.

I think we will have to get used agency players from now on, it is becoming clear that as soon as they earn wage rises and high transfers we are going to be a revolving door. Settled sides with great understanding and almost unique talent win trophies, for me there is a big big question mark about whether their way does. But then it's probably not about that is it? Just profits.

I think that all comes with the different expectations people hold for the owners. I am not saying 6th, 8th and 7th are acceptable. But they were left with a squad of players mainly on short-term contracts. They were left with many players nearing the end of their prime on big contracts. They were left with a team unable to challenge for 4th. I am not sure FSG want to do it the "cheapest way." They said when they came in they would not be funding anything, only that the club had to be self-supporting. You can dream of sugar-daddy owners, but I'd sooner accept reality, and that is that we are playing a mid-term strategy of rebuilding. And the start of that has to be losing players on big contracts who are all replaceable, and Reina certainly fits the bill. We all get attached to players, but right now, we should be questioning how good THEY really are, given they've been the ones playing on the field, and only mustering 7th.

Were you not saying that we need 2 good players for each position a few weeks back, for some reasons you see everything right in what FSG does, I hope you are right.

United sell squad players and young players not competing on a regular basis. Their settled squad of 17 remains the same year on year, with players replaced by better players. That is FSGs strategy. That aren't just going to sell players when they hit their prime. It all depends on how much value he still holds to the team, not how good they are individually.

Yes, I did say that Vish. I stand by it, and it is no different to what FSG are planning to build with Rodgers. We can't expect to build a squad in 3 windows. Why is everyone on here expecting miracles? I just don't understand it.

Read the report on the subject on the 'Latest LFC News' of this site, might open your eyes a bit, just might but I am not sure. If you think that Mignolet is better on his own rather than compete with Reina, I cannot say anything more.

We cannot improve our squad by selling our best players, else, it will be a miracle, that's the whole point. With the current policy as soon as a potentially good player develops into a top player, he will want to go, Suarez in this window, probably Coutinho next etc.

I think having Reina and Mignolet competing is ideal, apart from the fact we'd not be basing any of that on financial information inside the club. We can all want top players in every position like City try to do, but ultimately you need a tight group of gifted players, and there is not reason, why in time, we can't build that without over-spending. Patience is a virtue given to few. FSG have given that to Rodgers. Let him have a bit of time to rebuild a depleted squad... Surely people can see the progress we've made on the field since he came in?!


Our best player is not Reina though. Over the past 24 months, he has made several mistakes, dropped fitness levels, looked disinterested. He gave us many good years, I can't fault him for that, but he is only our best keeper because our other options have been poor. He has been paid highly for qualities he has stopped consistently reaching. Why settle for that, when we can buy someone in better form? Its logical. Suarez may leave. But every player has a price. Ronaldo left for Madrid, when he is rated in the top 2 players in the world. For £55m his contribution to the team is replaceable. The ball is in the clubs court. We don't have to sell. We can just decide to if there is value in doing so... As for Coutinho next?! Please... we're building a team for the long-term. Hence why they are being brought in young. You can choose to dismiss my opinions, but FSG aren't buying and selling players that have bought under Rodgers. They are keeping them. There is absolutely no basis to suggesting we are selling anybody bought under FSG that HAS impressed, only those that haven't. Surely we should always be striving for better. Too often we have been attached to players not capable of improving. It is about time we expected it.

I fully agree with that vish, But there’s none so blind as those who do not want to see. I’d add that Gerrard wouldn’t have got a contract extension either, if it wasn’t for FSGs fear of fan reaction, and I’ love to see if they’ve managed to reduce his wage, and by how much?.