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Originally Posted By: jjmelling
Check out my article on how we look at targets, and you'll get a clearer view on why Reina is seen by the club to be the most disposable player.
maybe your right but most players are disposable , reina is not the keeper he was still decent but not the keeper he was ,mignolet is a young very much up and coming keeper with vast premier league experience and an international with the very up and coming belgian team , personally i think mignolet will be fine and reina leaving has been on the cards for at least 3 years , look i remember paisley chasing clemence for the unknown bruce grobbelaar but it worked out , no more of a hero than jerzy dudek but he was moved on for reina so i say reina has got his move , lets get behind simon mignolet 100%

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Back to the topic, how on earth does a loan move benefit us?????
i dont think it does i think it benefits reina .


So why would the club agree to it so fast?
in that case why hasnt he been sold , napoli possibly not willing to buy him for some reason , barcelona and other clubs not interested , but reina leaves on loan as i say i think it benefits reina .


You haven't answered the question, why did the club agree a loan move then, and so quickly?

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I understand getting rid of Reina but not on loan????

Its all FSG cutting costs...

I have no doubts at Mignolet, I loved watching him at Sunderland last year, made some outstanding match defining saves, something we have been missing for a while.

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Originally Posted By: jjmelling
Check out my article on how we look at targets, and you'll get a clearer view on why Reina is seen by the club to be the most disposable player.


Doesn't mean it's right though?

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answered it early in the thread i believe his agent pushed it through .

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
answered it early in the thread i believe his agent pushed it through .


How can an agent force a club to do something they don't want to, he must be very persuasive or we are mugs? I still believe that the main aim of FSG was to get him off the wage bill and expect his value to grow by being managed by Benitez +Barca to push for Reina only next year.

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I think if any player is on the wages he is, and has been under-performing for near 2 years, albeit with a bit of improvement at the end of this season, then he has to be moved on at the right price. A loan deal saves us £4-5m this year. Which we could put towards a transfer we desperately need, like a centre-back. I think we should bring in a keeper now, but we've basically traded in Reina for a keeper in top form. Not sure why there is such criticism for the move.

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Originally Posted By: jjmelling
I think if any player is on the wages he is, and has been under-performing for near 2 years, albeit with a bit of improvement at the end of this season, then he has to be moved on at the right price. A loan deal saves us £4-5m this year. Which we could put towards a transfer we desperately need, like a centre-back. I think we should bring in a keeper now, but we've basically traded in Reina for a keeper in top form. Not sure why there is such criticism for the move.
yes your right i think but its like liverpool have chased reina to replace him with brad jones , but its not mignolet is decent very decent and young enough to improve .

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Originally Posted By: jjmelling
I think if any player is on the wages he is, and has been under-performing for near 2 years, albeit with a bit of improvement at the end of this season, then he has to be moved on at the right price. A loan deal saves us £4-5m this year. Which we could put towards a transfer we desperately need, like a centre-back. I think we should bring in a keeper now, but we've basically traded in Reina for a keeper in top form. Not sure why there is such criticism for the move.


I think the criticism is on the spin doctoring, saying that we were bringing competition to Reina when the true reason was to get him off the wage bill because probably his performance was not worth the wage according to FSG. Also Faz is convinced that it is all Reina's making which I don't think so, I am not surprised at all, said that Reina would go as soon as Mignolet was bought.

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FSG and Rodgers both want Liverpool to compete. FSG are acutely aware that when they came in, our wages were approaching 65% of our turnover. At 70%, we could be punished under the FFP rules if implemented appropriated. Ridding a player like Reina on loan, saves the club an amount we can invest now/later depending on when a target becomes available. Much the same as Carroll, he is in the shop window, unless he accepts a pay reduction.

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