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So now we're arguing about what it means to be a fan, or a Liverpool fan in particular. I'll tell you what it means because I know. I live very very far from Liverpool in a war torn Lebanese village near the Israeli border and believe me I have much more to worry about than Liverpool F.C. but I can't help feeling my heart pounding just before any - and I mean any- Liverpool game. I have never seen a Liverpool player in the flesh and most probably never will, I have never spent a penny towards anything Liverpool related and even getting a visa to the UK is next to impossible. Yet, I've been a Liverpool fan (from a distance) for 32 years, I've lived all the ups and downs, and if anything, I feel MORE of a fan than those who follow the club because it is their home town club.
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So now we're arguing about what it means to be a fan, or a Liverpool fan in particular. I'll tell you what it means because I know. I live very very far from Liverpool in a war torn Lebanese village near the Israeli border and believe me I have much more to worry about than Liverpool F.C. but I can't help feeling my heart pounding just before any - and I mean any- Liverpool game. I have never seen a Liverpool player in the flesh and most probably never will, I have never spent a penny towards anything Liverpool related and even getting a visa to the UK is next to impossible. Yet, I've been a Liverpool fan (from a distance) for 32 years, I've lived all the ups and downs, and if anything, I feel MORE of a fan than those who follow the club because it is their home town club. And in my eyes you are and will always be a passionate Liverpool fan.
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Stan, no one ever disputed the club was a commercial business...either way, as you said, it's there in black in white for all to see. We all know you denied saying the things that you did say. This is also not the 1st time you have done it, a while back you pulled the same stunt and again i found your post and placed it for all to see. It seems it's just a habit with you. It doesn't matter really, I dont have the time or energy to waste on people who won't admit to what they have said and be responsible for their words and actions.
For the sake of the forum, let's stop speaking, because there is obviously no dialogue with you. I repeat my posts because you fail to acknowledge their truth, so I have to point out the proof to you again and again. It's tiring and boring. I will refrain from speaking to you and I ask you do the same regarding me, and please do not mention me in your posts anymore.
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That's. heartwarming story and Liverpool fans come from every part of the globe. But if no one paid towards Liverpool the club would not exist. That's nothing new its always been the case. It's also not just money the crowd are part of tbe product you watch on tv. I suppose we could get to the day the crowd is computer generated and everyone pays by TV subscription. I would have no problem with that its already priced out for most people. However I would continue to watch live games at lower league level or rugby league as you cannot beat a live game in my view.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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So now we're arguing about what it means to be a fan, or a Liverpool fan in particular. I'll tell you what it means because I know. I live very very far from Liverpool in a war torn Lebanese village near the Israeli border and believe me I have much more to worry about than Liverpool F.C. but I can't help feeling my heart pounding just before any - and I mean any- Liverpool game. I have never seen a Liverpool player in the flesh and most probably never will, I have never spent a penny towards anything Liverpool related and even getting a visa to the UK is next to impossible. Yet, I've been a Liverpool fan (from a distance) for 32 years, I've lived all the ups and downs, and if anything, I feel MORE of a fan than those who follow the club because it is their home town club. i respect your feelings and your thought very much so , but i dont believe your MORE of a supporter in your words , as i posted we all follow the team for different reasons as i posted i believe i have a very different relationship with the club than you have , and i have lived through the very dark days of LFC , 24 plus years and still by some being branded a thief and a murderer by the world after heysel and hillsbrough having to live with that in this city every day , ok not war but very dark times indeed , but just because i see the club in a different light doesnt make me better or more of a red it makes me and many thousands more too having a different relationship with LFC than others for many of us its not just the 90 mins or the next signing , its the club , the city and everything that goes with it for me , its like many times i have seen foreign liverpool fans laughing and taking pictures at rockfield road boarded up houses not other teams fans liverpool fans because like me they have a different relationship with the club , i pulled them asking why they are laughing at my city but they dont see it that way .
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Could you please tell me what exactly I need to knock off? I have purely been defending myself after my allegience has been questioned and my worthiness as a fan put up as a subject of how much I might be able to afford. I will obide by the rules of KOPTALK, but Koptalk or not, I will not allow someone to call me a liar or question my support for the club I love.
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So now we're arguing about what it means to be a fan, or a Liverpool fan in particular. I'll tell you what it means because I know. I live very very far from Liverpool in a war torn Lebanese village near the Israeli border and believe me I have much more to worry about than Liverpool F.C. but I can't help feeling my heart pounding just before any - and I mean any- Liverpool game. I have never seen a Liverpool player in the flesh and most probably never will, I have never spent a penny towards anything Liverpool related and even getting a visa to the UK is next to impossible. Yet, I've been a Liverpool fan (from a distance) for 32 years, I've lived all the ups and downs, and if anything, I feel MORE of a fan than those who follow the club because it is their home town club. i respect your feelings and your thought very much so , but i dont believe your MORE of a supporter in your words , as i posted we all follow the team for different reasons as i posted i believe i have a very different relationship with the club than you have , and i have lived through the very dark days of LFC , 24 plus years and still by some being branded a thief and a murderer by the world after heysel and hillsbrough having to live with that in this city every day , ok not war but very dark times indeed , but just because i see the club in a different light doesnt make me better or more of a red it makes me and many thousands more too having a different relationship with LFC than others for many of us its not just the 90 mins or the next signing , its the club , the city and everything that goes with it for me , its like many times i have seen foreign liverpool fans laughing and taking pictures at rockfield road boarded up houses not other teams fans liverpool fans because like me they have a different relationship with the club , i pulled them asking why they are laughing at my city but they dont see it that way . Spot on, we are all different, but we are all fans of the same club and I dont think these distinctions of worthier or less worthy are fair. We are all fans. This is exactly why I get so upset when segregation by classes happens. It's not right. I said earlier, it's an intertwined web, where we are all connected and the club would not survive without match going fans, nor would it survive without us couch potato fans. At the end of the day, we all share the passion for the same club.
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