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I apologise to Faz! I used the words racism which may be a bit harsh along with prejudice and discrimination. Just so you know I was only commenting on another post earlier that mentioned a particular political party and from what I know of them they are not too fond of anyone or anything that is not Britsh, so my point in what I said is that by mentioning that party, anyone from a different cultural background who knows what this party is could pick up the wrong end of the stick and view this thread and the OOT issue as a racist one.

Look what yah did Emp!!

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Originally Posted By: Redballs
I apologise to Faz! I used the words racism which may be a bit harsh along with prejudice and discrimination. Just so you know I was only commenting on another post earlier that mentioned a particular political party and from what I know of them they are not too fond of anyone or anything that is not Britsh, so my point in what I said is that by mentioning that party, anyone from a different cultural background who knows what this party is could pick up the wrong end of the stick and view this thread and the OOT issue as a racist one.

Look what yah did Emp!!



You could only view it as racist(wacist)if you went out of your way to miss the point on purpose.

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I am local and a season ticket holder. Season tickets are £600 a throw thats what driving many locals off they simply cannot afford them and I include myself in that.


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I am local and a season ticket holder. Season tickets are £600 a throw thats what driving many locals off they simply cannot afford them and I include myself in that.



Yeah that's the biggest factor but not the whole story.

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does this viewpoint apply solely to football? i.e. do you think people should be excluded from your favourite pubs/clubs in Liverpool if they are from out of the area?

Conversely, if anyone of you have ever been to Barcelona/Madrid (or plan to) - how many of you would pay to see a local game at the Nou Camp or the Bernabeu??

Or again, outside of football, if you wanted to go to a restaurant or take the kids to a water park but were refused entry because you were from Liverpool...would that be acceptable?

Your comments are not racist per se, but they are slightly xenophobic.

Maybe we should adapt the government's ID scheme


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Originally Posted By: toneloc

does this viewpoint apply solely to football? i.e. do you think people should be excluded from your favourite pubs/clubs in Liverpool if they are from out of the area?

Conversely, if anyone of you have ever been to Barcelona/Madrid (or plan to) - how many of you would pay to see a local game at the Nou Camp or the Bernabeu??

Or again, outside of football, if you wanted to go to a restaurant or take the kids to a water park but were refused entry because you were from Liverpool...would that be acceptable?

Your comments are not racist per se, but they are slightly xenophobic.

Maybe we should adapt the government's ID scheme







If you reply to these sort of strawman arguements will it mean getting banned.

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Originally Posted By: jim b

If you reply to these sort of strawman arguements will it mean getting banned.


How is it misrepresenting your stance? explain the difference to me

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Originally Posted By: jim b

If you reply to these sort of strawman arguements will it mean getting banned.


How is it misrepresenting your stance? explain the difference to me


You're coming out with tripe about how if people want to keep the traditions of the club it must mean they dislike everyone else.

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Originally Posted By: jim b

If you reply to these sort of strawman arguements will it mean getting banned.


How is it misrepresenting your stance? explain the difference to me


You're coming out with tripe about how if people want to keep the traditions of the club it must mean they dislike everyone else.


I have never mentioned disliking anyone - but you are suggesting exclusion based on Geography.

Do you not think that there are some more loyal Liverpool fans out of the city than some in it?

Obviously we have very loyal fans within the city but why exclude someone who is committed enough to travel to Anfield every other week from Scunthorpe who sings his heart out every week.

Also, I would like to know how many fans there are from Liverpool who have been unable to get tickets every week. How hard are they trying?

I suspect the large number of people you are saying agree with you are jumping on the bandwagon and do very little by way of trying to get a ticket.

Do they just expect them to be posted out to them ?

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Originally Posted By: toneloc
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Originally Posted By: toneloc
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If you reply to these sort of strawman arguements will it mean getting banned.


How is it misrepresenting your stance? explain the difference to me


You're coming out with tripe about how if people want to keep the traditions of the club it must mean they dislike everyone else.


I have never mentioned disliking anyone - but you are suggesting exclusion based on Geography.

Do you not think that there are some more loyal Liverpool fans out of the city than some in it?

Obviously we have very loyal fans within the city but why exclude someone who is committed enough to travel to Anfield every other week from Scunthorpe who sings his heart out every week.

Also, I would like to know how many fans there are from Liverpool who have been unable to get tickets every week. How hard are they trying?

I suspect the large number of people you are saying agree with you are jumping on the bandwagon and do very little by way of trying to get a ticket.

Do they just expect them to be posted out to them ?[/quote]


It's not a difficult thing to follow a club from your own area.It's a thing people have been doing for 3 seperate centuries but the idea seems to have crept up on you and taken you by surprise.

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