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Good post j melting and I am sure you are right.

My concern is we don't need an improvement but a big improvement to push us to champions league contention.

Have we got that ? I am not sure time will tell


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I agree with Stan. Our activity in this window looks like it will improve us but not by anywhere enough to make the top4. 6th is the best we can expect but we'd have achieved that anyway without spending a penny.

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Right now I would say we have improved more than Everton, Arsenal, and Spurs who are our rivals for 4th currently. Have we enough to overtake them yet? Perhaps not (except for Everton), but if we sign a couple more good players without losing any key players, I think have a shot at that. This season, I predict a 5-6th place finish with major growth in players like Aspas, Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge, Ibe, Suso, Alberto, and Henderson. We'll decide whether Suso, Borini, and Allen should stay. We'll score loads, but unless we sign a good DM and/or another centre half, I suspect our defensive inconsistency to continue (though mitigated by the additions of Toure and Mignolet). I also predict us to do better against top sides, and I expect the gap in points between us and the European place to be much smaller.

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Originally Posted By: redordead13
Right now I would say we have improved more than Everton, Arsenal, and Spurs who are our rivals for 4th currently. Have we enough to overtake them yet? Perhaps not (except for Everton), but if we sign a couple more good players without losing any key players, I think have a shot at that. This season, I predict a 5-6th place finish with major growth in players like Aspas, Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge, Ibe, Suso, Alberto, and Henderson. We'll decide whether Suso, Borini, and Allen should stay. We'll score loads, but unless we sign a good DM and/or another centre half, I suspect our defensive inconsistency to continue (though mitigated by the additions of Toure and Mignolet). I also predict us to do better against top sides, and I expect the gap in points between us and the European place to be much smaller.


I don't think Spurs or even Arsenal had a much better squad than us, i thought that our squad was as good as Spurs, the difference has been the managers. Right now, with the new players I think we are at least as good as them but the transfer window is not closed yet, neither for us nor for them.

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With Spuds signing Paulinho that puts them back ahead of us in terms of strength, we need to get Michael/Eriksen or someone of their ilk who can play through the middle and provide flair and creativity through there which we only have with Coutinho, i'd like to see Alderweirld come in to as someone said. Next season we must have 2 attacking players with a touch of class from midfield ie Michael/Eriksen and a top quality CB as Toure should be back up unless Skrtel is going to be brought back in to the first 11 and BR did just give Carra 1 final crack of the whip for the last 6 months, Skrtel, Agger, Toure, Coates is a pretty ok defence considering how good Skrtel was last year, we then need to keep Suarez/Sturridge/Borini/Aspas as these 4 aint bad choices considering not long ago it was simply Torres and Ngog, on the wings Downing and Alberto(?) can both play on the right as can the 4 strikers if converted along with Sterling, Suso, Assaidi, i think we need another winger and quality attacking/defensive midfielder as top priorities, if Skrtel rediscovers his old form we'll be ok at the back, Reina WILL be sold as the funds are much needed and Mignolet is on much less wages


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Originally Posted By: Prolific Borini
My beef with considering the Dempsey saga comes from a slightly different perspective. I actually think they did really well not to dish out any more on Dempsey, my problem is that we should have gotten someone far better than Dempsey. They messed up badly there, we never should have gone into the season with 1 recognized striker. As Vish said, we can thank our lucky stars Luis didnt get injured.

would a signing like Mkhitaryan do anything to improve your views of FSG, because he would be a big signing and a BIG COUP. 1 thing i think we are doing right this window is that, contrary to popular perception, we arent signing only young potential. Toure is very experienced , Aspas is 25 and is nearing his prime, but more importantly has enough experience as a professional footballer. Mignolet also has enough experience and is very talented, only Alberto could fall into the young potential category.

Yes Prolific, signing Mkhitaryan would improve my view of FSG, as it would indicate a welcome change in recruitment policy, as would the signing of another top quality centre half. With regard to the others we signed this window it's a continuation of the buy cheap policy and it's a gamble, that may or may not work out, and that kind of gamble is not what we need right now. We have a window of opportunity with what's going on with some of our main competitors, and so far we haven't grasped it in a way that would convince me that FSG are prepared to make the kind of investment that will take us back into the top 4. There's a month to go so we'll all know exactly where they're coming from then.

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Originally Posted By: jjmelling
My opinion, is that "Liverpool buying youth" transfer policy is existent to a point, but we have brought in 2 25year olds, and a 32 year old, alongisde 1 20 yr old.

Mignolet is a great keeper. He shone at Sunderland. In Decemberm Hart even went so far as to say he was the best keeper in the league. So one of the top Premier League keepers is signed just before his prime, for £3m more than Reina did 8 years ago. To me, that is an intelligent purchase.

Aspas was signed on the back, of almost single-handedly helping Celta Vigo survive in La Liga. Another guy at 25, he was amongst the top squads picked by the pundits at the end of the season; even if he had little chance displacing Messi, Ronaldo or Falcao. At £7-8m, he is a snip for a striker who contributes both goals and assists. Compare that to Kuyt. Similar Age when signed. Similar Position. Kuyt cost in the region of £9m. He seems to be the replacement we were crying out for last year.

Toure, at 32, is the oldest player FSG have allowed in to the club. An experienced defender, on a lower wage than the departing Carra. He is on a short-term deal and a proven winner. His influence in the dressing room could prove invaluable, even if he doesn't play much. If he does, and appears as in shape as he does in the images, then he could be ready to surprise a few people. He did play at Arsenal when they played similarly expansive football.

Lastly, we have 1 player who we can all say we knew the least about. Luis Alberto is the only player we haven't seen/heard about fully, and the only one not to compete regularly in the top division in their country. In all honesty though, his record in the Liga Adelante is brilliant. He'll come in as a young challenger, and looks to be replacing the departing Shelvey.

I think they're all upgrades on what we have. Our 2 weaknesses are a strong driving midfielder and another ball-playing centre-half. They are the two things left on our wish list, and Mkhitaryan appears to be our main focus. We may be moving on to Alderweireld but I think that all depends on Skrtel leaving, and not sure that will happen to be honest.

Where in the first window there was no clear strategy, now it is plain to see. Proof is in how they play. I don't know how anyone can look at their records and think they're not good players. I can understand that people want "top signings," I just think we've signed players like this before... They've been as mixed as our big money signings. Let's be optimistic and think they'll do well.

Plus, if Skrtel does stay and reclaim his old form, and Borini and Allen get back to their best, they'll be like new signings to us anyway. BR has little to hide now. His squad depth is building quite nicely. He just needs to hone the qualities that lie beneath its surface.


How many times have you watched Aspas play in a full game if I may ask, and you probably said to yourself, this is the player we should get?

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He never said that vish he said "he seems to be" ..


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Originally Posted By: Prolific Borini
Originally Posted By: Annefield58
I note you haven't referred to any post/s where you did criticise FSG, are there any ? and can you quote any of them?


Yes, there are numerous ones. I choose not to waste my time trying to prove anything to you. Feel free to read through my posts since they took over and find them yourself. However on the same note, have you ever given them credit for the good they've done?

Ah now Prolific, if they were there you'd find them.
Yes I welcomed them when they took over, as I believed their promises regarding the stadium and returning the team back to the top and "wining things" I even went so far as posting that we were in good hands and that I had faith in them... Just shows that there's no fool like an old fool I suppose.
Anyway you are wrong to say I have exhibited extreme prejudice and bias against FSG. As you can see I gave them fair weather until they proved themselves unworthy. I hope they will redeem themselves and if they do I'll be the first to acknowledge it.

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Originally Posted By: Thompson
He never said that vish he said "he seems to be" ..


I was just asking as he seemed to know Aspas the player very well.

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