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Rubbish...perhaps expensive players have simply had the oppurtunity to prove themselves on the big stage and cheap ones havent yet..How much did Nasri cost before he moved to Arsenal? Dzeko before he played for Wolfsburg? CHicharito? Coutinho? Michu? Demba BA before newcastle? Each and every player only becomes expensive once they get a chance to prove themselves on the big stage...
Ask Porto how much they paid for Hulk, Falcao, Martinez, Rodriguez....So, as I said, players become expensive once they get an oppurtunity to showcase their talents on a big stage. It doesnt mean they were of a lower quality when playing for a smaller side. So you see, it really is not that simple is it?
SImple as that mate... With your logic teams are mad to pay high fees for players then, Real Madrid are crazy to be wanting to sign Suarez. I wonder how Chelsea and City became better clubs than us in the last few years, they should have gone for cheaper players. Both Chelsea and City have a better chance than us to finish in the top 4, but, you probably think otherwise. Vish, dont be like that. I am well aware of where we stand, but I am saying that what Chelsea and Citz are doing is not sustainable and that we will overtake them in the long run. Remember the tortoise and the hare. How did Barca and Bayern and United get to where they are today? Was it by spending 100 mil every transfer window on only the biggest stars? How did QPR fair with their multi million pound transfers? Rafael, Fabio, Evra, Cleverley, Valencia, Nani, Vidic, Buttner, Fletcher, Chicharito, Varane, Tello, Pedro, Arbeloa, Pique, Busquets, Muller, Kroos, Schweinsteiger, Messi....none of those players were bought for mega millions in their prime...they were brought in as young potential and developed into stars. Perhaps, you know better though. Perhaps United, Bayern and Barca should take the approach you are advising instead. Maybe they have got it all wrong... 1 big player per transfer window is more than enough, for me that player this window is Mkhitarzan...and I am very happy with the rest so far, Aspas, Toure etc. I am not sure we are going for even 1 big player though and United, Bayern and Barca have consistently gone for a couple of big players every season despite having good teams already. Now talking about the hare and the tortoise, Chelsea is already outselling us when it comes to shirts and very soon their revenue will be higher than us especially with Mourinho back, then even from their revenue they will be able to spend more than us. This is what I fear, if we do not get back to competing for big trophies very quickly, we will be done as a great club.
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Vish I think we are pretty much done as a big club already. The idea we are the new bayern Munich or Barcelona is fantasy. It's possible of course anything is possible in football but there is no reason to suppose we are better placed than any other team. Including Leeds utd why are we better placed than them both former big names both on hard times. Both have strong fan bases but slowly declining as young fans move to teams winning titles and on the too stage e.g champions league
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Vish I think we are pretty much done as a big club already. The idea we are the new bayern Munich or Barcelona is fantasy. It's possible of course anything is possible in football but there is no reason to suppose we are better placed than any other team. Including Leeds utd why are we better placed than them both former big names both on hard times. Both have strong fan bases but slowly declining as young fans move to teams winning titles and on the too stage e.g champions league sadly a totally 100% correct post stanley , and yes anything is possible but the demand by fans for champions league i think is unhelpful , and yes liverpool football club are a big name but only as an historical terms and with no league title for near on 25 years the club is only a big name not a powerhouse no more .
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Listen posters on here can justify cheap, unheard of signings with any excuse they want but fact of the matter is if we were signing Fernandinho, Navas, Neymar for huge money and United were signing Aspas, Alberto etc on the cheap we'd be having a good laugh at them now. Ok you love the club but be honest were far, far away from the top 4, we can get 4th but only in a lucky season like Newcastle almost done last year, until we start spending there will be no more trophies at Anfield simple as, no coincidence that United, City and Chelsea are among the biggest spenders really is it? They win titles each year, we dont.
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Listen posters on here can justify cheap, unheard of signings with any excuse they want but fact of the matter is if we were signing Fernandinho, Navas, Neymar for huge money and United were signing Aspas, Alberto etc on the cheap we'd be having a good laugh at them now. Ok you love the club but be honest were far, far away from the top 4, we can get 4th but only in a lucky season like Newcastle almost done last year, until we start spending there will be no more trophies at Anfield simple as, no coincidence that United, City and Chelsea are among the biggest spenders really is it? They win titles each year, we dont. I can safely say I wouldn't be laughing, because their success in the transfer market bringing in good players wouldn't make me question what they could offer. It depends on how much faith/belief you have in what they can buy/find, and up until now, we haven't been feared for that reason, and Utd have. You're entitled to your opinion about 4th. I just think there is a lot more to our squad than people on here think, and therefore don't think we're as far away as people believe we are, from competing for 4th.
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Listen posters on here can justify cheap, unheard of signings with any excuse they want but fact of the matter is if we were signing Fernandinho, Navas, Neymar for huge money and United were signing Aspas, Alberto etc on the cheap we'd be having a good laugh at them now. Ok you love the club but be honest were far, far away from the top 4, we can get 4th but only in a lucky season like Newcastle almost done last year, until we start spending there will be no more trophies at Anfield simple as, no coincidence that United, City and Chelsea are among the biggest spenders really is it? They win titles each year, we dont. but mate liverpool have spent big and failed massively , 03. Liverpool near £725,000,000 these figures are a disgrace 3rd in all time spenders , total utter disgrace and not one manager is immune from this utter disgrace .
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Arsenal, United, City and Chelsea are 100 miles ahead, Spurs are 20 miles ahead, Everton are just up the road about a kilometer away, we need cash nobody finishes in top 4 without it you could use Arsenal and Spuds as an example but they have simply bought a better quality of player over the last 3 years than us.
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Vish I think we are pretty much done as a big club already. The idea we are the new bayern Munich or Barcelona is fantasy. It's possible of course anything is possible in football but there is no reason to suppose we are better placed than any other team. Including Leeds utd why are we better placed than them both former big names both on hard times. Both have strong fan bases but slowly declining as young fans move to teams winning titles and on the too stage e.g champions league Agree with you. Was surprised to see that some here think we are the new Bayern and Barca because we bought Coutinho cheaper than he is worth as it looks so far. They think that it will always be like that instead of the Borinis of this world.
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If Coutinho has 1 great, great full season and we dont get 4th he'll be off to one of the big boys to best believe that
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If Coutinho has 1 great, great full season and we dont get 4th he'll be off to one of the big boys to best believe that Unfortunately I think that this is a big possibility, we will know more with Suarez in the next few weeks.
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