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5) he's won next to nothing throughout his career
lol ok. He just has two European Championship medals, 1 World Cup medal, 1 FA Cup medal, 1 League Cup medal, 2 medals with Villareal, 1 super cup medal, 1 community shield medal, and 3 golden gloves for his first three years with Liverpool (not to mention setting numerous goal keeping records for our club). All he is missing is a League Champion and Champions League medal from winning every medal possible. But yeah, he's wont next to nothing. some people are so biased against reina because he had 1 bad season. his form under roy was bad but so was everyone elses on our team.
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why are we selling a top keeper with a great reputaion for a poultry £10m?
surely we should be asking for 20m and sell for 15m LOL. We can't ask £20m for Reina!!!! 1) he's nearly 31
2) he's just been 'replaced' by Mignolet. Whether you accept it or not Reina is now or 2nd choice
3) he's not even a regular international
4) he's been poor for the last 3 years
5) he's won next to nothing throughout his career£10m will be the VERY maximum we can hope to get. Try and justify a £20m price tag to me, go on...... 1)Goalkeepers can play to 40 2)that may be your only half decent point 3)Have you heard of Iker Casillas? The best goalie in the world? 4)He hasn't been "poor" he just has not been as good as he was before, he has still been a class goalie. 5)I'm sorry? Sorry? Are you.....tell what......? I'll expand this point. Carheex that last point is nothing other than a ball faced lie!  What on earth does that mean?! Back to your counter arguments........ 1) Goalies can play until 40 - true, but not very often and rarely at the top level 2) --- 3) I've heard of Casillas of course, but that doesn't negate my point 4) no way has he been class in the last 3 years. he makes far too many unforced mistakes and is nothing like the keeper he used to be. Dropped in favour of brad jones..... 5) the only significant thing he has won where he was a major influential contributor is the FA cup Don't get me wrong, I like the guy but you can't base his value on how nice a person he is, or how good he used to be. That sort of term isn't a key factor in negotiations
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5) he's won next to nothing throughout his career
lol ok. He just has two European Championship medals, 1 World Cup medal, 1 FA Cup medal, 1 League Cup medal, 2 medals with Villareal, 1 super cup medal, 1 community shield medal, and 3 golden gloves for his first three years with Liverpool (not to mention setting numerous goal keeping records for our club). All he is missing is a League Champion and Champions League medal from winning every medal possible. But yeah, he's wont next to nothing. some people are so biased against reina because he had 1 bad season. his form under roy was bad but so was everyone elses on our team. You can "LOL" all you like, but the only significant medals in your list are ones that he won without getting a glove dirty. Include them if you like but very few players acknowledge medals that they picked up for sitting on the bench. Bascially, he was 1 FA Cup medal - the same as Robles of Wigan...
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This is one of the best pieces of transfer business liverpool have done in years. Pepe clearly has not justified his position as no1. With a salary circa 90k+ he has become expendable. He has fluttered his eye lashes and lifted skirt numerous times to Barcelona whilst taking the LFC shilling. He no doubt is committed but is that enough? I want quality as well and the fact is he has not performed to the level he should be at.
We have to stop being a stepping stone for players to move on from. Pepe now has a choice of no offer from barca, lost place at LFC and moving elsewhere. All of a sudden we are in the strong position. It's the first time in a long time that we buy first and then decide how a player is sold or kept.
Message to Luis here in that we will sell on our terms not on his. Finally the club is bringing in hungry players who really see LIverpool as a way to success. I have a really good feeling about next season.
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Yeah, I certainly prefer the pro-active approach from the club. Ultimately, I hope it isn't going to be a smoke-screen for a swift selling of a lot of players later on, but I honestly don't think it is. I agree that competition in every position is crucial to getting the best out of players. Even if Reina stays, it'll be interesting to see how he raises his game to keep Mignolet out of the team.
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Yeah, I certainly prefer the pro-active approach from the club. Ultimately, I hope it isn't going to be a smoke-screen for a swift selling of a lot of players later on, but I honestly don't think it is. I agree that competition in every position is crucial to getting the best out of players. Even if Reina stays, it'll be interesting to see how he raises his game to keep Mignolet out of the team. Don't think Reina will stay, gut feeling.
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I'm not sure. I think if he goes he will be replaced. And if he doesn't go, he'll improve. I think it is a win-win situation right now.
I'm intrigued to see who could come in if he does go. We were linked with Patricio at Porto, and he has impressed me in the Champions League and Europa League in the last few seasons. I admit not seeing much of him in the league, but he is certainly part of a winning team.
His cost and contract would likely match that of Mignolet which would be covered by Reina's deal, and hand the manager a bit more on the wage budget side. Plus, at a similar age to Mignolet, we'd have some great competition for a No. 1 jersey. It is something the title-chasing Manchester clubs have had for a couple of seasons now.
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I felt Reina picked it up second half of the season, am I the only one thinking this?
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No you're not the only one that thinks he turned a mini corner. He made a few less mistakes. I don't think he has improved as a player though. He has been stale for a couple of years now. It is not all about his quality as a keeper, and more about how much we can improve. He has been off the top for a couple of years. Do you keep a high wage player on the hope he peaks again? Or do you take the guy improving and already on an upward curve?
Last edited by jjmelling; 28/06/13 02:30 PM.
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No you're not the only one that thinks he turned a mini corner. He made a few less mistakes. I don't think he has improved as a player though. He has been stale for a couple of years now. It is not all about his quality as a keeper, and more about how much we can improve. He has been off the top for a couple of years. Do you keep a high wage player on the hope he peaks again? Or do you take the guy improving and already on an upward curve? It looks like BR thinks that Mignolet's peak will be higher than Reina's.
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