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No,this is not a good town for psychedelic drugs.Reality itself is too twisted.
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
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Absolutely agree. I dont give 2 shiits that we can get Johnny on the left wing from Club A for 12 million and he'll be good in 4 years, I want to sign Jimmy on the right wing from Club B for 20 million and he'll be good straight away. We beat around the bush far to often. I don't see the sense in assuming that because a player is younger and/or cheaper it means he'll only come good in 4 years time. Allen, Sturridge and Coutinho all came in last season and all had an instant impact. Obviously Allen's form dipped and you can't always unearth gems like Countiho but such signings show that such players can be a success.
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Who should we be signing then?
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Agreed, Kop were linked with and i say linked loosely, about 5 or 6 youngsters, assuming we sign these guys who 3 or 4 are unheard of and they come good we'll win the league, do you think that will happen? As sixties said its like going out clubbing and trying every woman in sight, evantually you'll get one.. Expensive though!
No,this is not a good town for psychedelic drugs.Reality itself is too twisted.
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
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thats why there doing the scatter gun approach fire enough buck shot you'll hit something Please explain.
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Absolutely agree. I dont give 2 shiits that we can get Johnny on the left wing from Club A for 12 million and he'll be good in 4 years, I want to sign Jimmy on the right wing from Club B for 20 million and he'll be good straight away. We beat around the bush far to often. I don't see the sense in assuming that because a player is younger and/or cheaper it means he'll only come good in 4 years time. Allen, Sturridge and Coutinho all came in last season and all had an instant impact. Obviously Allen's form dipped and you can't always unearth gems like Countiho but such signings show that such players can be a success. However, I don't think you would deny that signing known good players and managers reduces your risks of failure considerably. Indeed you can get lucky with unknown players and managers, but, it's better not to take chances as United did with Van Persie and City and Chelsea did with most of their squad. For that you need funds which FSG doesn't have, that I would agree, as good business people they are looking for maximum return on investment, ie, invest relatively lower. We all know that this is the reason why we are after lesser known players, i hope it works.
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Absolutely agree. I dont give 2 shiits that we can get Johnny on the left wing from Club A for 12 million and he'll be good in 4 years, I want to sign Jimmy on the right wing from Club B for 20 million and he'll be good straight away. We beat around the bush far to often. I don't see the sense in assuming that because a player is younger and/or cheaper it means he'll only come good in 4 years time. Allen, Sturridge and Coutinho all came in last season and all had an instant impact. Obviously Allen's form dipped and you can't always unearth gems like Countiho but such signings show that such players can be a success. However, I don't think you would deny that signing known good players and managers reduces your risks of failure considerably. Indeed you can get lucky with unknown players and managers, but, it's better not to take chances as United did with Van Persie and City and Chelsea did with most of their squad. For that you need funds which FSG doesn't have, that I would agree, as good business people they are looking for maximum return on investment, ie, invest relatively lower. We all know that this is the reason why we are after lesser known players, i hope it works. It's all good saying that we need to go out and buy 'established'/'proven'/'top quality' players but what happens if we do sign for example 5x £20million players who all command large salaries and still fail to finish in the top four? After all, spending large sums of money doesn't guarantee the players will succeed. I agree with what's being said in principle, in fact it's obvious that we'll have a good chance of finishing in the top four with better players but I think a lot of people fail to consider that it doesn't guarantee a top four finish. I can't agree with this 'scatter gun approach' nonsense. The fact that Sturridge and Coutinho came in and had an instant impact is down to good scouting and management not 'luck'.
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Absolutely agree. I dont give 2 shiits that we can get Johnny on the left wing from Club A for 12 million and he'll be good in 4 years, I want to sign Jimmy on the right wing from Club B for 20 million and he'll be good straight away. We beat around the bush far to often. I don't see the sense in assuming that because a player is younger and/or cheaper it means he'll only come good in 4 years time. Allen, Sturridge and Coutinho all came in last season and all had an instant impact. Obviously Allen's form dipped and you can't always unearth gems like Countiho but such signings show that such players can be a success. However, I don't think you would deny that signing known good players and managers reduces your risks of failure considerably. Indeed you can get lucky with unknown players and managers, but, it's better not to take chances as United did with Van Persie and City and Chelsea did with most of their squad. For that you need funds which FSG doesn't have, that I would agree, as good business people they are looking for maximum return on investment, ie, invest relatively lower. We all know that this is the reason why we are after lesser known players, i hope it works. It's all good saying that we need to go out and buy 'established'/'proven'/'top quality' players but what happens if we do sign for example 5x £20million players who all command large salaries and still fail to finish in the top four? After all, spending large sums of money doesn't guarantee the players will succeed. I agree with what's being said in principle, in fact it's obvious that we'll have a good chance of finishing in the top four with better players but I think a lot of people fail to consider that it doesn't guarantee a top four finish. I can't agree with this 'scatter gun approach' nonsense. The fact that Sturridge and Coutinho came in and had an instant impact is down to good scouting and management not 'luck'. I agree that top players do not guarantee top of the league finish, but as you said it yourself the chances are higher. I also agree that if we do not finish in the top 4 with expensive players, the club will be put at risk of finishing like Leeds etc, however, we could also finish like Chelsea who was close to bankruptcy before being taken over as it was with City and Takshin being deported from his country. The best according to me is to have FSG to sell at a reasonable price to a buyer who has the means to invest, until then, we have no option but to do what FSG is doing and hope for the best. Now talking about unknown players, you can get it right like in the case of Coutinho or not that right like in the case of Borini and Allen in their first season.
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thats why there doing the scatter gun approach fire enough buck shot you'll hit something Hamann, Westerveld, Titi, Henchoz, Smicer, big Sami, we hit Big Sami, one out of six, think that was the season anyway.
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Absolutely agree. I dont give 2 shiits that we can get Johnny on the left wing from Club A for 12 million and he'll be good in 4 years, I want to sign Jimmy on the right wing from Club B for 20 million and he'll be good straight away. We beat around the bush far to often. Do you seriously believe that Jimmy Kebe is better than Johnny Bravo? Get real! 
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