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OK, not literally but I think it is already mapped out.....
We Will Finish 6th.......
To be honest, I can't see any other realistic outcome. With the money we have spent and with Moyes leaving, it would be an absolute disaster if we didn't finish above Everton this year. And have we done enough this summer to overtake any of the current top 5 clubs? Granted, it looks like we're adding to the squad but the big teams have yet to start their spending and all of them have the ability/finances to improve more than us this summer. With Ferguson gone, Mancini gone, and Benitez gone there will be a lot of uncertainty - all of the top 5 could win the league if they get it right this summer and I think they will all try and seize the opportunity.....which will leave us further behind.
I find it a bit sad that I am almost certain of our finishing position as it is taking some of the excitement out of the game. I'm not blaming FSG or BR - the bigger problem lies in the clubs that are buying their way to the top as it ruins the game on so many levels.
Does anyone think it is likely that we WON'T finish 6th?
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I think if we finished lower than 6th it would be an absolute disaster, but I don't know if it's mapped out. It will be chaos in the top 6 this year. Everton are going to drop a couple places, that's pretty much certain. Chelsea and United could do really well or they could completely nosedive with the managerial changes. Who knows? Spurs have run out of steam at the end of every year, and Arsenal have only made it into the CL for the past 2 years by the skin of their teeth because everyone else screwed up at exactly the right time.
It will be chaos. If we sign some of these better players and hold onto Suarez, I'd say we have a decent shout at 4th. At this point I'd see 5th place as decent progress, and I'd see 6th as acceptable progress. One place up every year is slow going, but it's progress.
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OK, not literally but I think it is already mapped out.....
We Will Finish 6th.......
To be honest, I can't see any other realistic outcome. With the money we have spent and with Moyes leaving, it would be an absolute disaster if we didn't finish above Everton this year. And have we done enough this summer to overtake any of the current top 5 clubs? Granted, it looks like we're adding to the squad but the big teams have yet to start their spending and all of them have the ability/finances to improve more than us this summer. With Ferguson gone, Mancini gone, and Benitez gone there will be a lot of uncertainty - all of the top 5 could win the league if they get it right this summer and I think they will all try and seize the opportunity.....which will leave us further behind.
I find it a bit sad that I am almost certain of our finishing position as it is taking some of the excitement out of the game. I'm not blaming FSG or BR - the bigger problem lies in the clubs that are buying their way to the top as it ruins the game on so many levels.
Does anyone think it is likely that we WON'T finish 6th? I really dont understand why you can be so negative, the transfer window is barely underway and certainly a long way off closing. Its not top trumps you know, if it was City and Chelsea would win hands down but in fact they don't. You are writing off our season before a ball has even been kicked - totally incredible jees lucky we are not at war, who would want you in the trenches
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Spurs & arsenal are certainly the 2 runts of the big teams but they still finished 11/12 points clear of us last year, and that was WITH the help of Suarez's 23 goals. They will both improve their squads whilst ours might actually be weaker IF Luis he leaves. I think that any talk of 5th will lead to inevitable failure. People will get vexed and blame FSG/BR when it's individual expectations that are the cause of the disappointment.
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OK, not literally but I think it is already mapped out.....
We Will Finish 6th.......
To be honest, I can't see any other realistic outcome. With the money we have spent and with Moyes leaving, it would be an absolute disaster if we didn't finish above Everton this year. And have we done enough this summer to overtake any of the current top 5 clubs? Granted, it looks like we're adding to the squad but the big teams have yet to start their spending and all of them have the ability/finances to improve more than us this summer. With Ferguson gone, Mancini gone, and Benitez gone there will be a lot of uncertainty - all of the top 5 could win the league if they get it right this summer and I think they will all try and seize the opportunity.....which will leave us further behind.
I find it a bit sad that I am almost certain of our finishing position as it is taking some of the excitement out of the game. I'm not blaming FSG or BR - the bigger problem lies in the clubs that are buying their way to the top as it ruins the game on so many levels.
Does anyone think it is likely that we WON'T finish 6th? I really dont understand why you can be so negative, the transfer window is barely underway and certainly a long way off closing. Its not top trumps you know, if it was City and Chelsea would win hands down but in fact they don't. You are writing off our season before a ball has even been kicked - totally incredible jees lucky we are not at war, who would want you in the trenches Put your tampon back in ffs! Instead of having a dig, why not contribute to the thread content and say why you think I am wrong - and then offer a suggestion as to where you think we'll finish.
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OK, not literally but I think it is already mapped out.....
We Will Finish 6th.......
To be honest, I can't see any other realistic outcome. With the money we have spent and with Moyes leaving, it would be an absolute disaster if we didn't finish above Everton this year. And have we done enough this summer to overtake any of the current top 5 clubs? Granted, it looks like we're adding to the squad but the big teams have yet to start their spending and all of them have the ability/finances to improve more than us this summer. With Ferguson gone, Mancini gone, and Benitez gone there will be a lot of uncertainty - all of the top 5 could win the league if they get it right this summer and I think they will all try and seize the opportunity.....which will leave us further behind.
I find it a bit sad that I am almost certain of our finishing position as it is taking some of the excitement out of the game. I'm not blaming FSG or BR - the bigger problem lies in the clubs that are buying their way to the top as it ruins the game on so many levels.
Does anyone think it is likely that we WON'T finish 6th? I really dont understand why you can be so negative, the transfer window is barely underway and certainly a long way off closing. Its not top trumps you know, if it was City and Chelsea would win hands down but in fact they don't. You are writing off our season before a ball has even been kicked - totally incredible jees lucky we are not at war, who would want you in the trenches Put your tampon back in ffs! Instead of having a dig, why not contribute to the thread content and say why you think I am wrong - and then offer a suggestion as to where you think we'll finish. we are all doomed according to you. Club is finished, FSG this and that, We never buy good players, only ever been successful for 13yrs of our 130 year history(in fact 121 yrs old). all total tosh and without evidence. Nobody can argue against you because what you talk about is in the future. You claim to be some modern day Nostredamus when really you are the man who sits at the end of the bar and knows it all. You contribute nothing but attempt to mark everyone else's homework. You do not go the games as your views do not represent the majority of those who do attend such as Stan(who does nhave negative views but talks the issues the fans are talking) Things are not rosey in the garden but they are improving and have been for 12mths. Based on the last 19games we would get 72points per season. Will we? dunno it is impossible to tell. So much change above us makes this year the hardest to predict in decades, which makes you 'view' even more ridiculous
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I can't see us breaking out of broadly where we were last season to be honest.
But football always throws up a surprise or two
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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OK, not literally but I think it is already mapped out.....
We Will Finish 6th.......
To be honest, I can't see any other realistic outcome. With the money we have spent and with Moyes leaving, it would be an absolute disaster if we didn't finish above Everton this year. And have we done enough this summer to overtake any of the current top 5 clubs? Granted, it looks like we're adding to the squad but the big teams have yet to start their spending and all of them have the ability/finances to improve more than us this summer. With Ferguson gone, Mancini gone, and Benitez gone there will be a lot of uncertainty - all of the top 5 could win the league if they get it right this summer and I think they will all try and seize the opportunity.....which will leave us further behind.
I find it a bit sad that I am almost certain of our finishing position as it is taking some of the excitement out of the game. I'm not blaming FSG or BR - the bigger problem lies in the clubs that are buying their way to the top as it ruins the game on so many levels.
Does anyone think it is likely that we WON'T finish 6th? I really dont understand why you can be so negative, the transfer window is barely underway and certainly a long way off closing. Its not top trumps you know, if it was City and Chelsea would win hands down but in fact they don't. You are writing off our season before a ball has even been kicked - totally incredible jees lucky we are not at war, who would want you in the trenches Put your tampon back in ffs! Instead of having a dig, why not contribute to the thread content and say why you think I am wrong - and then offer a suggestion as to where you think we'll finish. we are all doomed according to you. Club is finished, FSG this and that, We never buy good players, only ever been successful for 13yrs of our 130 year history(in fact 121 yrs old). all total tosh and without evidence. Nobody can argue against you because what you talk about is in the future. You claim to be some modern day Nostredamus when really you are the man who sits at the end of the bar and knows it all. You contribute nothing but attempt to mark everyone else's homework. You do not go the games as your views do not represent the majority of those who do attend such as Stan(who does nhave negative views but talks the issues the fans are talking) Things are not rosey in the garden but they are improving and have been for 12mths. Based on the last 19games we would get 72points per season. Will we? dunno it is impossible to tell. So much change above us makes this year the hardest to predict in decades, which makes you 'view' even more ridiculous I take it that you don't agree with me then? One thing I would like to know though, is why you think that the views of a game-goer are more relevant/accurate than those of someone who chooses to watch elsewhere? You seem to think that the only fans we have (or that count), are the lucky ones who can get to the games??!?! "Based on the last 19 games..." is such a pointless remark. A decent 'team' will always be capable of a good run but the season is 38 games long and requires a large squad with quality in depth to be successful. Lastly, this forum is all about opinions so why have a pop and accuse me of not providing 'evidence'. Surely that's a comment that could be aimed at 99% of the posts on this forum. If you hard facts and evidence, don't take part in an opinion-based forum. Oh, and don't call me Nostradamus when you are predicting 72 points per season.
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Carheex the game goer studies the match more intently as they have nothing else to do. Whereas at home watching in the tele you can be reading a magazine etc.or the wife can shout who left these muddy boots here ?
So the match going fan always knows more. This is why I know so much about everything in case you were wondering
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Oh, and don't call me Nostradamus when you are predicting 72 points per season. [/quote] 
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