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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By: Carheex
Faz, you clearly haven't understood a single comment that has been attributed to Suarez recently. He's not saying that he hasn't acted badly, and he is not saying that he hasn't deserved some bad publicity. It's the LEVEL of negative publicity, relentless ridiculing and even interference from the prime minister - a man who is 'supposed' to speak on behalf of his constituents). It's all gone way too far and other (british) players have done things just as bad but haven't had anywhere near the crap that he & his family have had to deal with.

It's all well and good saying, "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime" but the 'punishment' doesn't fit the crime. He accepts the fines and bans but it's the other rubbish that is driving him out. Try to keep up.
ha but carheex its all self inflicted , and if he thinks the spanish press will be kind to him then he is very nieve , he is a liverpool player , the club have stated he isnt for sale many many many times , the fans give him all the adulation in the world , and he comes out with this utter rubbish about wanting off , not because he want to win things because he cant handle the adverse publicity he has brought on himself , you know what i am expecting someone to say ivanovic made suarez bite him by putting his arm in suarez's mouth delibarate next , look if he stays ok fine he is a very good player , but honesty is the key word and has not been honest .


You've missed the point again. The bans are self inflicted, and the fines are self inflicted. No one, not even Luis, is arguing with that. One last time just for you though.......'it's the other media crap that is undeserved, which other players of similar controversial character, haven't had to endure.'

Should he have been fined? yes
Were his bans justified? possibly yes
Should he and his family have to put up with extra crap and personalt attackes from the prime minister, news channels, websites, newspapers etc? No, because that's not part of the game, which is why he might see his future away from the english press. I don't think I can make it any clearer Faz so maybe someone else can try and get through to you.

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look mate he has done extraordinary things , the worst being biting if he was not doing these thing he wouldnt have bad publicity , but then when he hasnt spoke to the club he talks about wanting off , now you clearly cant see this is being dishonest and disrespectful to the club and the fans , and only fuels speculation because once again he has ran his mouth off , as i have said if he wants to leave get his agent to put in a transfer request , if not keep it shut luis and play football and the bad publicty will go away .

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i would except he is being driven out if his issues were minor or petty , but there not and were not and to blame the press for bad publicity is not right when he has brought it all on himself , i remember the cantona business , court cases , 8 or 9 month banned , community service , and the press wanting him deported out the country , he stuck it out and became one of the best foreign players ever , he could have easily ran away but never , but suarez seem to want to run away which for me shows disrespect and a bit of cowardness by him .

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I'm not gonna get into it with you Faz as you go out of your way to get offended, it's truly astonishing.

You did manage to make me "lol" pretty hard though, love a good quote me laugh

Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
famous sayings.. "if you cant stand the heat dont go in the kitchen" or "if you can do the time dont do the crime"

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Wanting out seems more appropriate:

"First I have a contract with the club, but if one day I want to sign (for another club), Liverpool will hear the offer, as it does with other players," Suarez was quoted as telling Spanish newspaper Marca.

"They must agree with other teams, but the word of the player, in this case mine, is important. If you need a change, you should listen to the player.

"Every player aspires (to be the best) and if you ask a child of eight years they would say one day they would go to Real Madrid or Barcelona."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/...ains-in-balance

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I absolutely love Luis Suarez, he's the BEST player by far we've had for some time now, im not going to argue with you Faz anymore about it i think myself and Carheex explained the point but you aint getting it (or u are but your being selective). If he leaves then we'll get big money and he'll be missed, IF he stays well then il be one happy red with a player like him at the club.


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Also let me put it like this Faz, 2 of my mates say Mate A and Mate B, both got caught with some grass a while back, both only had about a joints worth each but Mate A had a tiny bag with a little scrape at the bottom worth about 5 euros, Mate B ended up with an 800 euro's fine (First time offender) and Mate A ended up with a 300 euro's fine (Second time offender, caught with a bit before), and both had the same solicitor? Mate B ended up with a real bad name around my estate as the gossip crowd were out to get him whilst nobody said a thing about Mate A as he's more of a "nice chap". Do you understand how hard done by Mate B felt? Nobody would have ever blamed him if he left our estate for another, and even abused everyone who tarnished his name as we all knew he was hard done by. Now take this situation and use it with Suarez, has he really deserved this treatment? If you yourself Faz committed a crime surely after 3/4 months you'd say "right i'm the talk of the town but now it has to stop, i got what i deserved but my bad name is still being thrown around, its out of order now"? Use logic he may be a footballer on 80k a week but he's also a human being, not a robot.


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But I do agree with Thompson and Carheex and many on here. If the same treatment was given to all, this wouldn't have happened. He wants to leave because of the way the media came down so hard on him after the well-publicized incidents. That I even say well-publicized proves it, because Mascherano's incident barely makes headlines, Defoe's bite went unpunished, and Terry was banned for less time than Suarez, in an incident they could actually see him mouthing stuff "to the same effect" as those he was accused. He didn't deserve it in comparison to others. I have great amounts of respect for the man and player, even if his "can't accept losing" mentality gets him into too much trouble.

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Actually, what FAz is saying also isnt entirely true...because before the bite or the race row, Luis Suarez was being persecuted by the press for DIVING. Dovong, an ffence Gareth Bale, the media's lovechild, recieved more cautions for than Luis. So explain to me Faz, was that fair from the press and media? Was that also brought on by Luis?


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And also one day if i do have a child i will be a very proud dad if he grows up with the same passion and will to win as Suarez.


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