KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Can someone please explain?

doesn't he say why in his statement? that he will need time to adjust and for Everton to adjust

The point is that better managers don't take short term gambles on the clubs they arrive at. They are sure of their abilities and confident enough that they take their time and methodically adjust the squad, backroom, tactics etc. at a less frantic pace.

Everton have a recent history of keeping a manager long-term, and kept Moyes when they had 2 seasons back to back not competing in the top half. So it appears from the outset they are likely to give him time and patience.

Name a single manager at a small club who managed to come in and immediately manage the team better, and continue to do so for a long time on a small budget. You most likely can't, because they'd fit on one hand. It doesn't happen, regardless of how good you are individually.

He did as much as he could for Wigan, Everton will be a far bigger challenge, he is young and wants to play the beautiful game, lets see how he goes before calling him the next Gaurdiola or on the other hand, Dave o leary

It appears to me most fans only rate a manager who wins trophies off the back of £100's of millions spent. When does one guy outside the usual top 4 actually get any credit?

Even Moyes who has done wonders at Everton with a 2 bob budget gets nothing but criticism and a 'what's he won?' line! Like AF, Mourhino or any other modern day EPL manager has done it on his, Martinez's budget or anywhere near a million miles of it.

Hold on, what about Rafa at Valencia and LFC, or Extramadura and Tenerife. Rafa won promotions with the latter 2 and proceeded to finish 3rd in la liga behind Sevilla and Betis, all on a very modest budget....smaller than Wigans.

Or what about Vicenzo Montella at Fiorentina this season...his first season and finishing 4th in serie A. Viktor Goncharenko from Bate Borisov also works on a more modest budget but has achieved more success, heck even Ole Solskjaer at Molde, although he is competing in a much weaker league.

But Goncharenko has got wins Against Lille and Bayer Munich, and draws against Juvetus, AC Milan and Zenit with Bate Borisov and he has done this on a very small budget.

To me he looks like a promising talent, not a manager who has spent years in the relegation zone .

That's a cop out of an excuse. Plenty of good managers join a new club and either keep things ticking over or make improvements sooner rather than later.

Thats an opinion, not an excuse. You can choose anybody and never know whether they will do well straight off or not. AVB struggled at Chelsea. Di Matteo did well at first. Martin O'Neill started well and faded. Rodgers started very average and has turned out quite well. So from great to good, even the best can struggle, so a bit of respect for having an opinion, rather than trying to belittle people because it is different to yours.

plenty of good managers also don't make immediate improvements. you choose to believe that every manager will hit the ground running, I don't. we'll agree to disagree