KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Can someone please explain?

Could somebody please explain to me why Martinez is viewed as such a good up and coming manager? What has he done that makes you think he is some special talent? In my eyes he is very ordinary and I believe he will be found out at everyone very soon.

Apparently, he's seen as the man that made Swansea into the club they are today. But I'm with you; I don't rate him particularly highly and was relieved when he turned us down.....'flabbergasted', that we were even talking to him!!!

People say that he got Wigan playing great football - not from my armchair they weren't - they were sh!t which is why they've been relegated.

Exactly, they were relegated and prior to that had several relegation battles. I'm sorry but a manager who spends several seasons in the relegation zone with the same club cannot be a good manager in my opinion.

very true! with the worst goals conceded record in the prem for four years running to (so I was told don't know how true it is can't be bothered to look it up)

Hang on Wigan are a very small club so he did do well. As any Wigan fan what do they think of Martinez and you will only get one answer.

But I happen to think he is the wrong manager for Everton because he plays attacking open football. Evetons strength under Moyes is they have been hard to beat

He's considered a good manager in the same way Moyes is- he's done reasonably well within his means. He might have been fighting relegation a lot, but without him, Wigan would almost certainly have been relegated long before last season.

In the grand scheme of things, he's a not a great manager at all, but for a club of Wigan's stature, he's good- all subjective imo

Quite agree with you there Stanley, I think Martinez done the equivalent of winning the champions league every season he kept Wigan in the Premier League given the size of the club and finances he had to work within.

Gotta disagree, think steve bruce had a better record than martinez as manager off wigan and dont hear too much about him:)

I think there is a huge difference in perception of teams that do well playing "less attractive" football, compared to those that play the more "attractive". If Rodgers' football was dire, we'd be less likely to accept him for another season.

Success + Attractive Football always over Less-Attractive Football

If he could keep a team up with little invention and poor defenders for as long as he did, imagine if the talent base he had was better immediately. There would be obvious improvement in results. If it was direct football, it may not ever bring better results.

Not sure whats attractive about shipping a shedload off goals every game