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Fair point i suppose Faz i dont mind that i only started because he started with that crap about "Ireland, Thailand etc are the hot beds of football" and what not, very annoying. This is the same as the anti-Scouse behavour you just spoke of only its anti-irish and taking a dig at us Irish but in a way he cant be banned. I was glad Dunk banned him for it the other day, finally. it started with me did it, Ireland and Thailand are not hotbeds of football and challenge anybody to tell me that football is there national game so I am not telling any lies. You say you don't like people moaning well unfortunately this is a forum and one of the reasons it's successful is because it allows people to get things off there chest that they are not happy with, ticket price hikes is just one of many. I honestly think you are letting things get on top of you as you don't seem to be handling that fact very well which seems evident by the way you have got so annoyed over something which wasn't in fact there as in your claim of anti Irish agendas. I happen to think a difference of opinion within the rules of the forum is a healthy debate, there are divisions amongst us fans despite what some think, this forum proves there is, not there is anything wrong with divisions as long as there is respect. To me it seems like you are the one trying to create a division, and have been trying for a while now. Truth is, you fail miserably each time and end up getting banned. The reason I say this is because you keep on insisting that there are divisions amongst the fans, and use it as an excuse for your ooter comments. There aren't any divisions amongst the fans, there are diferences in opinion, which is fine for a forum. It's healthy to get different opinions. It isn't healthy to try and create a division based on ones nationality or origin or place of living. That is called racism and nationalism, neither of which is accepted by the forum rules or the rules of a healthy society. So if you cant adhere by the rules of the forum and society then you don't belong here. Simple as that really. Creating divisions based on factors of race or country where one lives, is not acceptable. there are divisions and its nothing to do with a difference of opinion, you say I am the one who is somehow trying to create that division yet one of the biggest divisions is the ticket hike and I had no part in that as I was banned so your talking complete rubbish. You then go on to suggest I am somehow using people's nationalities so I again inform you that the hike in ticket prices was against all nationalities who attend games so again your a liar, jog on mate come back with something substantial and not just ure interpretation Inspector Clusoe Am alrite to say that or u gonna accuse me of being anti French...
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No, i am gonna call youi a liar, because you said on several occassions that non local fans just dont understand, dont contribute as much and so on...but i wont get into it with you now, you'll be gone before long. But please refrain from calling me a liar without any proof...otheriwse i might have to notify the mods.
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Fair point i suppose Faz i dont mind that i only started because he started with that crap about "Ireland, Thailand etc are the hot beds of football" and what not, very annoying. This is the same as the anti-Scouse behavour you just spoke of only its anti-irish and taking a dig at us Irish but in a way he cant be banned. I was glad Dunk banned him for it the other day, finally. it started with me did it, Ireland and Thailand are not hotbeds of football and challenge anybody to tell me that football is there national game so I am not telling any lies. You say you don't like people moaning well unfortunately this is a forum and one of the reasons it's successful is because it allows people to get things off there chest that they are not happy with, ticket price hikes is just one of many. I honestly think you are letting things get on top of you as you don't seem to be handling that fact very well which seems evident by the way you have got so annoyed over something which wasn't in fact there as in your claim of anti Irish agendas. I happen to think a difference of opinion within the rules of the forum is a healthy debate, there are divisions amongst us fans despite what some think, this forum proves there is, not there is anything wrong with divisions as long as there is respect. To me it seems like you are the one trying to create a division, and have been trying for a while now. Truth is, you fail miserably each time and end up getting banned. The reason I say this is because you keep on insisting that there are divisions amongst the fans, and use it as an excuse for your ooter comments. There aren't any divisions amongst the fans, there are diferences in opinion, which is fine for a forum. It's healthy to get different opinions. It isn't healthy to try and create a division based on ones nationality or origin or place of living. That is called racism and nationalism, neither of which is accepted by the forum rules or the rules of a healthy society. So if you cant adhere by the rules of the forum and society then you don't belong here. Simple as that really. Creating divisions based on factors of race or country where one lives, is not acceptable. there are divisions and its nothing to do with a difference of opinion, you say I am the one who is somehow trying to create that division yet one of the biggest divisions is the ticket hike and I had no part in that as I was banned so your talking complete rubbish. You then go on to suggest I am somehow using people's nationalities so I again inform you that the hike in ticket prices was against all nationalities who attend games so again your a liar, jog on mate come back with something substantial and not just ure interpretation Inspector Clusoe Am alrite to say that or u gonna accuse me of being anti French... Remind me again, why have you been banned a gazillion times? Must be cause you were spreading messages of love and peace...
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Not wishing to step into this argument but in my opinion there are definate divisions between fans we are not all as one. There are those who see the club as if you like an entertainment but without personal sacrifice. And there are those for whom it is a way of life family etc. Not saying either is better than the other and all contribute (maybe not equally) but to an extent. There is also the city itself I am not from Liverpool or a scouser I am from thirty miles away. But I love the city the pubs and the way of life in fact I bet I know Liverpool better than many scousers in terms of real ale pubs and museums and the city’s history. For me the city and the club cannot be separated. That does not mean you need to come from and / or live in Liverpool just that you recognise the city and what it stands for.
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Really exactly was I not having a little joke with you ??? And marko sorry friend you are miles of the mark miles off I believe he was reffering to the part in bold...how exactly am i miles off? marko you are miles off because , you know perfectly well many in this forum have had many a laugh out of us over the tickets , even in this thread boxmonkey posted "boring" , plus and i know you signed it genuinely which i did thank you for , but many from this forum spoilt the petition i set up in protest , instead of joining together and giving what would have been some welcome help and backing , their was no sight of it just ridicule and unbelievable joy at the plight of liverpool fans getting ripped off , and before you say it wasnt koptalkers spoiling that petition well koptalk were the first people to know about it and the first to write on it , so to say there are no divisions in the support well its clear there is .
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Fax, to be honest you might interpret your united comment as a joke but with the history of disagreements between you two it could easily be viewed as baiting and not kidding. Also, I have never noticed any comments against match going fans or scousers. I have made comments where all I said is that we are the same and that one would not survive without the other.
However I hav noticed many many comments aimed at ooters and I do believe they should be reported and those posters should be banned. If you cant accept that someone who is out of town has the same love for the club as a local does than there really is no way you can treat them as an equal and lead a civilized conversation. Obviously I am not referring to you in person but you know what I mean. That's my view and marko i have never called anyone from out of town , have never had a go at you or anyone about where there from , but i have had it about me and where i live many times and i dont call for koptalkers to be banned , and as for allegedly baiting thompson over his man utd shirt read the thread we were joking about this last night and , i think if someone finds a man utd shirt in there house they probably need a bit of stick .
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Not wishing to step into this argument but in my opinion there are definate divisions between fans we are not all as one. There are those who see the club as if you like an entertainment but without personal sacrifice. And there are those for whom it is a way of life family etc. Not saying either is better than the other and all contribute (maybe not equally) but to an extent. There is also the city itself I am not from Liverpool or a scouser I am from thirty miles away. But I love the city the pubs and the way of life in fact I bet I know Liverpool better than many scousers in terms of real ale pubs and museums and the city’s history. For me the city and the club cannot be separated. That does not mean you need to come from and / or live in Liverpool just that you recognise the city and what it stands for. +1 great post mate .
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Not wishing to step into this argument but in my opinion there are definate divisions between fans we are not all as one. There are those who see the club as if you like an entertainment but without personal sacrifice. And there are those for whom it is a way of life family etc. Not saying either is better than the other and all contribute (maybe not equally) but to an extent. There is also the city itself I am not from Liverpool or a scouser I am from thirty miles away. But I love the city the pubs and the way of life in fact I bet I know Liverpool better than many scousers in terms of real ale pubs and museums and the city’s history. For me the city and the club cannot be separated. That does not mean you need to come from and / or live in Liverpool just that you recognise the city and what it stands for. stanley, if there was ever a post that was 100 million bang on the money its what you have just said, it summs it up perfectly, think I go about things differently and in some ways too abrasively but what you said is what I try to say. Thank you for also backing me up in stating that like it or not there is and always will be divisions amongst fanbases although no fan is worse or better than another I also agree that there is a special bond between fans from the city and the Club which is why the embelem of the club carries the City's coat of arms the Liver Bird, its like the Wallaby and Kangaroo for the people of Austrailia, Shamrock for Ireland and the Welsh Dragon for Wales they all represent the people of the places, like I said doesnt mean anyone is worse or better just different.
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Not wishing to step into this argument but in my opinion there are definate divisions between fans we are not all as one. There are those who see the club as if you like an entertainment but without personal sacrifice. And there are those for whom it is a way of life family etc. Not saying either is better than the other and all contribute (maybe not equally) but to an extent. There is also the city itself I am not from Liverpool or a scouser I am from thirty miles away. But I love the city the pubs and the way of life in fact I bet I know Liverpool better than many scousers in terms of real ale pubs and museums and the city’s history. For me the city and the club cannot be separated. That does not mean you need to come from and / or live in Liverpool just that you recognise the city and what it stands for. stanley, if there was ever a post that was 100 million bang on the money its what you have just said, it summs it up perfectly, think I go about things differently and in some ways too abrasively but what you said is what I try to say. Thank you for also backing me up in stating that like it or not there is and always will be divisions amongst fanbases although no fan is worse or better than another I also agree that there is a special bond between fans from the city and the Club which is why the embelem of the club carries the City's coat of arms the Liver Bird, its like the Wallaby and Kangaroo for the people of Austrailia, Shamrock for Ireland and the Welsh Dragon for Wales they all represent the people of the places, like I said doesnt mean anyone is worse or better just different. Could you answer my question and tell us all why you have been banned so many times?
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Not wishing to step into this argument but in my opinion there are definate divisions between fans we are not all as one. There are those who see the club as if you like an entertainment but without personal sacrifice. And there are those for whom it is a way of life family etc. Not saying either is better than the other and all contribute (maybe not equally) but to an extent. There is also the city itself I am not from Liverpool or a scouser I am from thirty miles away. But I love the city the pubs and the way of life in fact I bet I know Liverpool better than many scousers in terms of real ale pubs and museums and the city’s history. For me the city and the club cannot be separated. That does not mean you need to come from and / or live in Liverpool just that you recognise the city and what it stands for. stanley, if there was ever a post that was 100 million bang on the money its what you have just said, it summs it up perfectly, think I go about things differently and in some ways too abrasively but what you said is what I try to say. Thank you for also backing me up in stating that like it or not there is and always will be divisions amongst fanbases although no fan is worse or better than another I also agree that there is a special bond between fans from the city and the Club which is why the embelem of the club carries the City's coat of arms the Liver Bird, its like the Wallaby and Kangaroo for the people of Austrailia, Shamrock for Ireland and the Welsh Dragon for Wales they all represent the people of the places, like I said doesnt mean anyone is worse or better just different. Could you answer my question and tell us all why you have been banned so many times? marko there loads on here who have been banned many times thompson at least 4 according to him what difference does it make mate ????
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