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thats not all of us faz


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Originally Posted By: Troycook8
thats not all of us faz
did i say all ? no i said there no problem in coming the game paying your money but to see lads who gone the game for years missing out to OOters and foreigners who treat it like a day out to say alton towers is totally wrong and as i said this goes way back to the days of peter robinson who started all this .

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Originally Posted By: Troycook8
thats not all of us faz
did i say all ? no i said there no problem in coming the game paying your money but to see lads who gone the game for years missing out to OOters and foreigners who treat it like a day out to say alton towers is totally wrong and as i said this goes way back to the days of peter robinson who started all this .
Faz, OK that's a extreme case, But if we build a new bigger ground would you have a problem with OOters?????

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By: Troycook8
thats not all of us faz
did i say all ? no i said there no problem in coming the game paying your money but to see lads who gone the game for years missing out to OOters and foreigners who treat it like a day out to say alton towers is totally wrong and as i said this goes way back to the days of peter robinson who started all this .
Thats the whole point I am making, the amount of camera flashes going off everytime Gerrard takes a corner is a joke, half the fans dont know the words of the songs and a home game has become the likes of a freak show. Istanbul and Athens done it for me with the amount of OOT and foreign fans with tickets who had hardlt been to a game in there life when fans from the City had to stay at home and watch it on the telly. For what it's worth I cant blame foreign's and Out of Town folk attatching themselves to Liverpoool Football Club the blame lies firmly with Peter Robinson and John Smith who actively courted Out of Towner's because back in the late 70's and early 80s Liverpool was a destitute City and nobody had any money because of Thatcher. You only have to look at it now when the club sends out loads and loads of tickets to the International supporters Club, organisations in Ireland get block booking of tickets and the Club is in partnership with Thomas Cook for tickets and hospitality packages all at the expense of locals, it makes me sick.

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Originally Posted By: Troycook8
thats not all of us faz
did i say all ? no i said there no problem in coming the game paying your money but to see lads who gone the game for years missing out to OOters and foreigners who treat it like a day out to say alton towers is totally wrong and as i said this goes way back to the days of peter robinson who started all this .
Thats the whole point I am making, the amount of camera flashes going off everytime Gerrard takes a corner is a joke, half the fans dont know the words of the songs and a home game has become the likes of a freak show. Istanbul and Athens done it for me with the amount of OOT and foreign fans with tickets who had hardlt been to a game in there life when fans from the City had to stay at home and watch it on the telly. For what it's worth I cant blame foreign's and Out of Town folk attatching themselves to Liverpoool Football Club the blame lies firmly with Peter Robinson and John Smith who actively courted Out of Towner's because back in the late 70's and early 80s Liverpool was a destitute City and nobody had any money because of Thatcher. You only have to look at it now when the club sends out loads and loads of tickets to the International supporters Club, organisations in Ireland get block booking of tickets and the Club is in partnership with Thomas Cook for tickets and hospitality packages all at the expense of locals, it makes me sick.
What if the new ground is build and there is plenty of seats, would you mind OOters going to a game then,

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[/quote]players and management have nothing to do with it , its a job to them ultimately in the end , and as for bill shankly he always talked about the "PEOPLE OF LIVERPOOL" not the people of surrey, oslo,cork, belfast ETC , the people of the city of Liverpool

Thats true but Shankly managed Liverpool from 1959 to 1974. Football has changed immeasurably since then. One thing I can tell you about Bill Shankly was that he was an innovator. I am sure he would not have liked the money side of football today but he was never a "stick in the past" man quite the opposite.


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Gedthered I explained how Liverpool is a private Ltd company and you responded if this was the case then why have they got the liver bird symbol as club crest. This is so laughable it’s almost tragic. Hundreds of Liverpool businesses use the liver crest. By this logic Davy Liver cabs are the people’s cabs belonging to the people of Liverpool. If you don’t accept Liverpool is a private limited company then turn up at the offices or board meetings claiming as a local you have a right to be there. The security man will quickly put you right.

You make lots of general statements such as happy for OTT to go to the games but not at expense of locals etc.

In practice what does this mean what are you suggesting in terms of club policy?


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Gedthered I explained how Liverpool is a private Ltd company and you responded if this was the case then why have they got the liver bird symbol as club crest. This is so laughable it’s almost tragic. Hundreds of Liverpool businesses use the liver crest. By this logic Davy Liver cabs are the people’s cabs belonging to the people of Liverpool. If you don’t accept Liverpool is a private limited company then turn up at the offices or board meetings claiming as a local you have a right to be there. The security man will quickly put you right.

You make lots of general statements such as happy for OTT to go to the games but not at expense of locals etc.

In practice what does this mean what are you suggesting in terms of club policy?

I think the identity of a club and the people who live there is very important. If it was up to me and we built a 75,000 seater stadium i would make sure two thirds of the stadium was ticketed for local fans. I would send tickets round schools and youth centres so that future generations would be brought up supporting our great club as well as protecting the clubs Liverpool identity for years to come, i would also make tickets more easily available to locals to come up and buy them without the need of credit cards and obscene priority schemes, maybe sales from windows the day before the game on a first come first serve basis. Regarding The out of town supporters i would make so many tickets available to them as well and this will keep interest in the club from abroad and also let Foreign and Out of town fans experience the Anfield atmosphere as well as be able to take there photo's and wear there jester hats e.t.c.

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Fair enough thats me done on this subject as well.


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the sad thing here ged is that "OOT's" have not only a passion for the club, but also for the town and for the people, and yet you want to treat them like second class citizens. its a nationalist atttude, and if history teaches us anything, its that nationalism is one of the fathers of racism and oppression.
you talk about this "courting of OOT's", well my friend, the reason for this courting was it was VITAL for the survival of the club in an ever changing game, and if they hadnt done it, you would now been complaining about how LFC used to be a great club but they passed up an opportunity to expand with the rest of the clubs in england. just think for a second, realistically, where would the club be without interest from outside the city.
someone mentioned earlier about people of different origins moving into the city. where do you stand on those people going to games? how long do you have to live in liverpool to be entitled to this magic ticket privilage?
not to mention the fact that you dont seem to realise how almost impossible it is to get a ticket as an OOT without spending a fortune.


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