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could everyone please forward their addresses to gillett and hicks (yes thats right, the AMERICANS) to see if they qualify to be a liverpool fan.

thank you.


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He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
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Originally Posted By: flameboy09
could everyone please forward their addresses to gillett and hicks (yes thats right, the AMERICANS) to see if they qualify to be a liverpool fan.

thank you.
Is that the same Gillett and Hicks that when someone uses there name on here it is used in a derogatory manner as in American this or American that so in fact people on here are judging them by using there nationality in describing them, absolutely priceless. If you are going to have a go at Hicks or Gillette why dont people just say Hicks or Gillette why do they have to bring where they come from into it first.

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my point was that the club is owned by OOT's. and i have never called either the mananger or the owners by a derogatory name. (to the best of my knowledge). smile


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please don't take my Luis away.

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this is the first team squad from the official club website
8 players from liverpool, this oot debate is ridiculous.



* 1. Cavalieri
* 2. Johnson
* 4. Aquilani
* 5. Agger
* 8. Gerrard 1
* 9. Torres
* 11. Riera
* 12. Aurelio
* 15. Benayoun
* 16. Kyrgiakos
* 17. Rodriguez
* 18. Kuyt
* 19. Babel
* 20. Mascherano
* 21. Lucas
* 22. Insua
* 23. Carragher 2
* 24. Ngog
* 25. Reina
* 26. Spearing 3
* 27. Degen
* 28. Plessis
* 29. Nemeth
* 30. Itandje
* 31. El Zhar
* 32. Darby 4

* 34. Kelly 5
* 36. Irwin 6
* 37. Skrtel
* 39. Eccleston
* 40. Ayala
* 41. Hansen
* 42. Gulacsi
* 43. Bouzanis
* 44. Martin
* 46. Amoo
* 47. Pacheco
* 48. Bruna
* - Brouwer
* - Flora
* - Dalla Valle
* - Kacaniklic
* - Mavinga
* - Mendy
* - Oldfield 7
* - Palsson
* - Poloskei
* - San José
* - Saric
* - Simon
* - Threlfall 8
* - Weijl


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The “in towners” argument falls down even if you accepted that only people from the Merseyside boroughs are eligible to be LFC fans. For example scousers from Liverpool deride those from Birkenhead or the Wirral who they see as outsiders. If you were from St Helens also part of Merseyside you would be called a Wool or Woolyback. This is a scouse derogatory term for those who live not in the centre of Liverpool but the outer regions of the zone and whose spoken dialect is improper. If you live in Speke or Huyton your credentials as a scousers are questionable to some from the heart of Liverpool say Bootle or Toxteth. For the city centre itself well that is a scouse free zone in terms of residency. The majority of inhabitants there are students or up market professionals from around the country who work in the city and live on the Albert Dock or other posh apartments who would regard football as an offensive pastime.

I live in the Merseyside area and am an LFC season ticket holder.

When I see the coaches on Utting Avenue saying Nottingham, Bristol, South Wales reds on the back window of the coaches it fills me with pride.

When I go to Wembley down the M6 and see hundreds of reds coaches coming from the midlands, the west, the east and get down to London and then see the London based coaches join the red travelling army it fills me with pride.

When I go on holiday to the states and the far east and see locals with Liverpool tops knowing damn well they know and care as much about the team as I do it fills me with pride.

When I have a drink in Liverpool city centre on Saturday night and see the Norwegians, Danish. Irish, Swedish, Germans stopping over having a beer after the match (it must cost them a fortune to follow the reds). Well that fills me with massive pride too.

Gedtheered. You are in a minority here and your logic is flawed on so many levels. I get the impression you are an adult but you thought processes are that of someone aged about 14.

There is a team I would suggest which might be right for you and it’s on Merseyside. That team is Tranmere if you can live with the fact that they are on the Wirral and not in Liverpool.

If you cannot accept Liverpool is a worldwide club that perhaps this club is not for you.

Think about it.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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The “in towners” argument falls down even if you accepted that only people from the Merseyside boroughs are eligible to be LFC fans. For example scousers from Liverpool deride those from Birkenhead or the Wirral who they see as outsiders. If you were from St Helens also part of Merseyside you would be called a Wool or Woolyback. This is a scouse derogatory term for those who live not in the centre of Liverpool but the outer regions of the zone and whose spoken dialect is improper. If you live in Speke or Huyton your credentials as a scousers are questionable to some from the heart of Liverpool say Bootle or Toxteth. For the city centre itself well that is a scouse free zone in terms of residency. The majority of inhabitants there are students or up market professionals from around the country who work in the city and live on the Albert Dock or other posh apartments who would regard football as an offensive pastime.

I live in the Merseyside area and am an LFC season ticket holder.

When I see the coaches on Utting Avenue saying Nottingham, Bristol, South Wales reds on the back window of the coaches it fills me with pride.

When I go to Wembley down the M6 and see hundreds of reds coaches coming from the midlands, the west, the east and get down to London and then see the London based coaches join the red travelling army it fills me with pride.

When I go on holiday to the states and the far east and see locals with Liverpool tops knowing damn well they know and care as much about the team as I do it fills me with pride.

When I have a drink in Liverpool city centre on Saturday night and see the Norwegians, Danish. Irish, Swedish, Germans stopping over having a beer after the match (it must cost them a fortune to follow the reds). Well that fills me with massive pride too.

Gedtheered. You are in a minority here and your logic is flawed on so many levels. I get the impression you are an adult but you thought processes are that of someone aged about 14.

There is a team I would suggest which might be right for you and it’s on Merseyside. That team is Tranmere if you can live with the fact that they are on the Wirral and not in Liverpool.

If you cannot accept Liverpool is a worldwide club that perhaps this club is not for you.

Think about it.
So what you are saying is that when you go to the match like I do and you walk to the ground and see local fans walking to the local pub to watch the game on the telly because they cant get into the match because of people on the coaches like you said from Nottingham, Bristol and South Wales it fills you with pride does it. The whole point I am making is that Out of Town fans are now in the stadium at the expense of locals and that is wrong, there should be some sort of limit put on the ticketing allocation. If you went to Istanbul and Athens like i did you cant help but notice the amount of tickets which fell into the wrong hands ahead of genuine fans. Just another question i would like to ask you which is this, if you lived in an area where there was mass unemployment and a brand new factory opened up round the corner from where you lived would you be happy if they gave jobs in that factory to people from outside the country when they had the exactly the same skills as you to work there, or would you feel agrieved.

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STANLEY PARK at last someone posting here who is an INTOWNER who has the respect and appreciation that all fans of this club are genuine otherwise why the hell would i pump my hard earned into the club if i gave sweet [oops] about it , u make no sense when you say US GENUINE supporters should have right of way over you OOTS, its disrespectful no hopers like yaself that try and bring this club down but as stanley park said luckily your a small minority buddy , cheers stanley


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I do understand your logic about locals being pushed out but I don’t agree with it. The more Liverpool supporters there are the better for all of us ultimately. Yes Istanbul / Athens and the Finals there is a scramble for tickets but that’s the way it is for a major international sporting event. If you had your way this problem would not arise because we would not be in any more finals.

I have lived and worked in Liverpool all my life and I don’t accept you are a keener more loyal fan if you live in the area I have seen no evidence of it. Yes I have seen Merseyside locals who are LFC or EFC fanatics but have met others who have no interest in football. I have also met people from Ireland etc who travel to every home game is that not loyal? Would you travel to Cork every other Saturday?

Let’s assume you got your way and season tickets were restricted to say the Merseyside borough only the clubs revenue would fall to that of a championship or division 1 side. Before long that’s where the club would be playing and that artificial limit would prevent the club from ever expanding its fan base. I am assuming local people from Cheshire and Lancashire would be excluded from your scheme. We would no longer be worrying about owners whether American or Arab because we would no longer be in that class. We might though be worrying about going into administration as many lower league clubs are.

But like I said in my other post there is already one such club were following is almost exclusively local and Merseyside which seems to be what you are looking for.

Its Tranmere they are a nice friendly club what are you waiting for?


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ged, i'm an "oot" supporter and fully understand your points,i'm not going to slag you off as i've never done this to a fellow supporter.the thing i love about the the club is the "fans",wherever i've been the fellow fans have been amazing.
the humour among the scousers is second to none,i've never had a problem with anyone of them,each fan from liverpool i've spoken to wether it was an away match,or at anfield has been so enthusiatic about the club and fellow fans ,thats what makes the matches so good.its the 'crack' with the lads thats makes it all worth while even on a bad day.lets get back to basics and get behind the fellow fans and more important the club.

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