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I don't think so, that's exactly what I have been saying, he will get 20-25mil from FSG and will have to sell to generate the rest...but if we look at who we are most probably gonna be selling, it's not a huge worry as they can probably be replaced by better players for the same money. I think we will be looking abroad a bit more this window too, and at the benches of some top clubs around Europe...

I don't think this will force us to sell low though, the players have a value and if you want them, pay up, otherwise they are staying. I am sure there will be a market for AC and that we will get 14-15 for him...same goes for Skrtel. Not sure whether a market for Downing exists but I would think so. I don't think we will have too many problems selling our players, I believe there will be several interested parties in each. We already know that more than one club is looking at Reina, rumours have it several are looking at AC too. I believe Downing has done enough to raise interest. Coates will be a wanted man around Italy, Spearing and Shelvey could well have a host of smaller clubs looking at them.

As long as we have more than one club lookingat each of these players using think we'll be forces to sell low.

This year is a bumper year as clubs have extra TV money to play with. My only concern (based on having faith in the ownership) is that I believe the January signings were bought with the summers kitty, or contra Carroll.
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FSG so far have given 30+ million as an average each season. 30 million less the 20 million from the January purchases, plus the 10 million that the new TV deal brings = 20 million and Carroll's fee.

But that doesn't prove your theory either.

As it stands, FSG haven't shifted on any players intentionally for a profit, so as it stands your theory actually holds less weight. Fantasy, even.

Checkmate.

But our squad is already too thin, if we have to sell in order to buy then we're not advancing as far as squad strength is concerned. To get better quality and add depth to the squad we need investment and 20m won't do, we need at least double that or we're likely to stay more or less where we're at, both in squad strength and league position.

I'm not trying to 'prove' my theory - I'm simply explaining it.

It is widely accepted (although not necessarily 100% true), that the reason we prefer to buy young players is so that they have a decent resell value. The reason we haven't done so yet is simply because FSG haven't been here very long. FSG themsleves hinted at this policy when they gave their excuses for not signing Dempsey. I therefore concur that if we aren't a selling club, then why is age & resell value a consideration when buying a player?

But you're not though, you're portraying it as fact.

But all players can leave a club when they choose to, if enough money comes in, the club is powerless to stop them. Buying young players ensures we get the best deal when/if they do, it also means we don't have to go OTT on player wages. If FSG are planning to build up the quality of the squad slowly rather than throwing money at it in order to achieve a quick fix, then you have to imagine that players will come and go in that period of time as their performances catch the eye of clubs above (and abroad). So in this case, buying young players with good resell value makes sense but doesn't necessarily make us a selling club.

I should say that I'm just playing devil's advocate, I actually agree with you.

Is our squad too thin? I didn't really notice that it was, I noticed we lacked quality, but not numbers. I didn't notice any of our players displaying signs of fatigue at any point during the season. Now that we are out of Europe as well we will have even fewer matches. I dont think we need to increase the squad size. We need to increase the squad quality.

By selling some players and replacing them with better quality players we are doing exactly that. My posts have been dismissed as crazy or overly optimistic before, but mark my words, FSG have been very very clever about their approach in the past year or so and have done things very well. They are "Bang on" with their approach at the moment.

Papadopolous is far better quality than his fee would suggest, that's the kind of player we are going for. Spot on from the club. Finally we are doing transfers they way they should be done.

I'd venture to suggest you are in a smallish minority if you believe our squad is not rather threadbare unless you're talking about playing youngsters. However you're right about us lacking quality. But it's no surprise that now, despite all the signings since FSG came we still lack quality given the silly policy of only going for promising potentials. If they do fund the purchase of some top quality PL ready players in this window it'll be a welcome change for the better.

I don't think so...

Reina, Johnson, Agger, Gerrard, Coutinho, Sturridge, Suarez those are all quality players...we need more though, at least another 4-5 of that calibre... now of those players, Sturridge and Coutinho are a result of buying young.

I think you are being very short sighted as your are insisting on a seperation of quality on side and age on the other. Players can be young and quality at the same time, and not very expensive. there are countless examples...