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But even since Kenny, Rodgers has been given sufficient funds to get the right players in. 25 on Allen and Borini was a mistake, but not FSG's fault. Another 20 on Sturridge and Coutinho...that's 45 mil in transfer funds for the past season...is that little?
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But even since Kenny, Rodgers has been given sufficient funds to get the right players in. 25 on Allen and Borini was a mistake, but not FSG's fault. Another 20 on Sturridge and Coutinho...that's 45 mil in transfer funds for the past season...is that little? the money was no good to us in January, we needed it in the summer, we all remember the Dempsey gate saga and who could ever forget Ian Ayres office light being off and him with his feet up in his house watching Sky Sports news and how are rivals were spending 7 hours before the Summer deadline was due to finish.
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I'm glad we didn't waste the money on Dempsey. We had the money, but we weren't willing to throw it down the drain, taught by our experience from the KK/Commoli era.
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I think it's all about taking one step at a time. We're currently only eleven points behind the top four and I think Brendan Rodgers and the team have demonstrated of late that we're more than capable of bridging that gap with 2 or 3 quality signings and perhaps a little less naivety. We're certainly scoring enough this season to justify that improvement in key areas such as central defence and midfield will/should see us elevated towards or into the top four.
Talk of 'Rodgers out' is nonsensical, we're really starting to show signs of improvement and with so many managerial changes going on above us, it should be the perfect time for Liverpool to show some consistency and perseverance, build on what has been done well this season and look to add a little extra quality to a team that's starting to flourish. Agreed that Rodgers out talk seems a little crazy to me personally. And you touched on it hence the quote but it's not really aimed at you but I think it's easy to get carried away with our goal scoring. Whilst I'm enjoying the goals we're scoring and chances we're creating, if we score 100 goals in 3 games and don't score any in another 3 then we aren't going to compete are we. I honestly think we are about 3/4 games off of these top 4 sides, and to close that gap (baring in mind they will be strengthening as well) we need to add serious quality. That isn't a few decent players, it's 2 or 3 very very good players, and whilst the jury is still out word on the grape vine is that we getting 20 million? The same as we got on average under H and G and at a time when 20 million can buy you a lot less. Rodgers did well with sturridge and coutinho, but also made an, at the time, obvious error in spending so much on allen and borini when they weren't what we needed. So again I'm 50 50 about his ability to find players to elevate us to that level on a comparatively tight budget. Teams win titles by winning 1 nil when they need to, we all know this, putting 6, 5, 4, however many past people, as we discovered several years ago, does not win you titles and nowadays might not even get you a top 4 spot. I'm looking forward to next season, but I think Rodgers will have done well if we are close to 4th. I don't think he will get us to 4th.
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Good post, very true, but I would still give BR next season. Will be ery interesting to see who he goes for in the transfer window.
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Good post, very true, but I would still give BR next season. Will be ery interesting to see who he goes for in the transfer window. more Sturridge types and less Allen or Borini ones will be a bit more welcome. The thing which disappoints me a bit is that players like Henderson and Downing are still gonna play a major role next season, doesn't breed confidence at all.
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i disagree faz. we have some serious talent at the club and with the right management and tactics would have been every bit as good as spurs, chelsea and a faltering arsenal this year. we have been pipped by everton based on management and motivation alone. I actually tend to agree with that Flames. Would say though to BR's credit that he may unfortunately end up being one of those managers that more often than not (no manager is 100%) right with his buys but just hasn't got it in the other areas needed. I am not as convinced as you as of yet it's under the bus, but leaning that way sadly.
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actually, I think that chelsea and city can improve a lot. both teams have the players and resources do much better than they did this season.
If we do really well, we'll finish 6th. If we do 'ok, we'll finish 7th. if we do poorly, we'll finish 8th - that's how it's going to be for a few years. We're nowhere near the top teams and nowhere near the bottom teams. "Also rans" isn't very flattering but it fits us perfectly I'm afraid.
We're 30 points from the top and only 23 points from relegation. Relegation is more likely than winning the league at the moment. your post is bang on the money, at best top 6 and at worst probably 8th, we are now a firmly established run of the mill, bog standard mid table club who will never get champions league while at the same time never get relegated, unfortunately we have a manager who doesn't take the cups serious so we have absolutely nothing to play for or any excitement to look forward too. Aw fu-k it lads, I'm off to slit my throat, if you guys would like to call round, I could put ye out of your misery as well. Can we nominate people to send round to yours? Sure WNP, but only those with the same cheerful and optimist outlook like those two delightful personalities I quoted above. Even the sumptuous halls of heaven would be dull and dreary without me bringing such cheerful souls with me on the journey, I'm waiting for them to call, thats why i'm still to the good!
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actually, I think that chelsea and city can improve a lot. both teams have the players and resources do much better than they did this season.
If we do really well, we'll finish 6th. If we do 'ok, we'll finish 7th. if we do poorly, we'll finish 8th - that's how it's going to be for a few years. We're nowhere near the top teams and nowhere near the bottom teams. "Also rans" isn't very flattering but it fits us perfectly I'm afraid.
We're 30 points from the top and only 23 points from relegation. Relegation is more likely than winning the league at the moment. your post is bang on the money, at best top 6 and at worst probably 8th, we are now a firmly established run of the mill, bog standard mid table club who will never get champions league while at the same time never get relegated, unfortunately we have a manager who doesn't take the cups serious so we have absolutely nothing to play for or any excitement to look forward too. Aw fu-k it lads, I'm off to slit my throat, if you guys would like to call round, I could put ye out of your misery as well.  won't your throat be cut by the time we get round though Anne? Sounds like a wasted journey imo. No, no lumba, I'll do the merciful deed first and then sort myself out, sure how could I go on my lonesome and leave behind all that wonderful, optimist and enriching cheer? I'll need that on the other side. Ah no lumba, I'm waiting here at my doorway with baited breath and my grandfather's old cutthroat. I'd never be so selfish as to leave good folk in such agonizing misery and take off to lovely paradise on my own!
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im not.
the season is over now so i am going to judge rodgers, and the inept "lets do nothing" percentage of our forum who think "modern fans have no paitence these days" can think what they fckin like. what a load of nonsense. needs more time indeed!
i have zero faith in rodgers doing ANYTHING different next year. i dont get any sense that he is a winner, i think he is either a good coach or a mid table manager, but nothing more and nothing about him inspires me. we're a boring, unthreatening, "its the taking part that counts", passy-passy, excuse making load of rubbish.
get him out, time to start competing, and if the owners dont want to compete, then they need to go. first time i've logged on to the site in a while mainly because i can't handle all of the doom gloom... first thread i open is this lol whats with the stigma against rodgers? is it because he didn't have much of a reputation or experience with top clubs before he came here? seems really harsh to me my gripe with Rogers is simple, I don't agree with his policy of resting players in the cup competitions. The thing for me is this, I can fully accept Rodgers guiding the club to finish 6th, 7th or even 8th place each season because that's all we are now given what FSG provide funds wise, no problem whatsoever the thing I won't accept tho is we can't have a really good go at trying to win one of the cups which I honestly believe we could do and also finish 7th. I just can't get my head around what Rodgers is doing by resting players to keep fresh for the latter part of the season when we were out of everything in February, just don't make sense. tough one to call this season though. i totally agree with taking the cup competitions seriously but the league really should be our priority. i feel the squad has been a little thin in terms of quality especially in the earlier half of the season until we strengthened in january. on paper i'd of said the side we put out against oldham (who were bottom of league 1 at the time) was good enough to go and get a result. not having sturridge available to play in the europa league probably cost us too. if we'd of had sturridge and coutinho bedded in and ready for some of those games i think it could have been another story. lets remember that with borini out injured we had 1 striker fit to play so of course the manager is going to be cautious about who rests. think next season we'll be a lot stronger in terms of quality and depth with a lot less long term injuries i hope (kelly, lucas, borini etc)
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