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Caroll back? Don't be ridiculous. He costs away above and beyond what a Plan B player should on his wages alone. Cut losses and only be down £40mil instead of £60mil like we will be if we let him run his contract out.
He is probably being spotted around Liverpool etc as he is a Liverpool player, such he will train here during the summer unless/until a deal is agreed somewhere else.
And playing well? HE'S A THIRTY FIVE MILLION POUND STRIKER WHO HAS SCORED ABOUT 4 GOALS, one of which was a flukey toe poked free kick.
So he knocks the ball down or heads it on in a couple of games and suddenly he's playing well?
He's not even a handful for defenders, the lanky streak acts like a little girl and it's so easy to bring him down, or if the ball is at your feet you'll be past him quicker than you can say "Andy, there's a cold pint waiting for you over there."
His pony tail is more dangerous than his play style. What we paid for him is a sunk cost and we will not recoup that, same probably for Borini. Would have him over Borini anytime, would sell him only if we can get a better player from the money we'll get (transfer fee and wages) as we will need one more centre forward to cater for red cards and injuries.
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the only thing i would say is suarez plays worse when carroll plays up there. like carroll is in the way or something. but with luis out i think we have to get AC playing
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We can't recoup it, but we can leave it as a 40odd million loss, maybe less if we sell him. Or 60million if we pay his wages to the end of his contract. I know which I'd rather.
And as for preferring him over Borini to cover Suarez...here's a novel idea....we go buy a new striker in the transfer window. One better than both Borini and Caroll. Not like it will difficult to achieve.
You're really settling for mediocrity if you think AC "battering a few centre halves" for West ham is him playing really well and deserving of coming back into our line up.
I wouldn't want a player that one dimensional and hopeless in front of goal for a 3 million pound punt. Let alone 10 times that amount.
We gave him all the time in the world to try and settle and justify his worth, it didn't work out. Move on. I could list about 20 better strikers in the premier league alone. Even excluding the top 4!
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We need to end this Carroll saga,move on and pretend it never happened then sign a proper forward who isn't a total waste of space.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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we need serious funds spending on the team in order to move us up a place or two, probably around 60 million pound on about 5 or 6 positions, how can we raise that sort of money if we dont sell Suarez, Borini, Downing and Henderson.
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Quite easy...25 mil from FSG + sales of Reina, Skittles, Carroll perhaps Downing, Spearing, Coates...there's 50-60 million...No need to sell the world class legend that is Luis Suarez. By far our best player, and more importantly most determined one too.
Sign Reus
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we need serious funds spending on the team in order to move us up a place or two, probably around 60 million pound on about 5 or 6 positions, how can we raise that sort of money if we dont sell Suarez, Borini, Downing and Henderson. Well, if we sold the whole team we might get 80 to 90m, that would be even better, probably the biggest transfer kitty of the premiership, don't understand how FSG can't see that.
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we need serious funds spending on the team in order to move us up a place or two, probably around 60 million pound on about 5 or 6 positions, how can we raise that sort of money if we dont sell Suarez, Borini, Downing and Henderson. Well, if we sold the whole team we might get 80 to 90m, that would be even better, probably the biggest transfer kitty of the premiership, don't understand how FSG can't see that. with Suarez in the team we are a top 7 club maybe top 6 at a push without Suarez in the team we are a top 8 or 7 so for me worth the gamble to sell him. I think if we can spend the Suarez money sensibly we can be a stronger team without Suarez, we sold Rush and replaced him with Beardsley, Barnes and Aldridge and Everton sold Rooney when they were hovering just above the relegation and spent there money wisely and went to being a top 8 team so it can be done. I think we are in a position were we don't have much to lose selling Suarez league position wise, we need to speculate to accumulate providing we invest the money wisely.
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we need serious funds spending on the team in order to move us up a place or two, probably around 60 million pound on about 5 or 6 positions, how can we raise that sort of money if we dont sell Suarez, Borini, Downing and Henderson. Well, if we sold the whole team we might get 80 to 90m, that would be even better, probably the biggest transfer kitty of the premiership, don't understand how FSG can't see that. with Suarez in the team we are a top 7 club maybe top 6 at a push without Suarez in the team we are a top 8 or 7 so for me worth the gamble to sell him. I think if we can spend the Suarez money sensibly we can be a stronger team without Suarez, we sold Rush and replaced him with Beardsley, Barnes and Aldridge and Everton sold Rooney when they were hovering just above the relegation and spent there money wisely and went to being a top 8 team so it can be done. I think we are in a position were we don't have much to lose selling Suarez league position wise, we need to speculate to accumulate providing we invest the money wisely. Where do you think we would be without Suarez's goals this year, even if we bought a decent centre forward for 10-12m? Not 7th, probably below 10th. That said I think we will lose him this summer, not because we want to sell him, but because he would like to move on.
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we need serious funds spending on the team in order to move us up a place or two, probably around 60 million pound on about 5 or 6 positions, how can we raise that sort of money if we dont sell Suarez, Borini, Downing and Henderson. Well, if we sold the whole team we might get 80 to 90m, that would be even better, probably the biggest transfer kitty of the premiership, don't understand how FSG can't see that. with Suarez in the team we are a top 7 club maybe top 6 at a push without Suarez in the team we are a top 8 or 7 so for me worth the gamble to sell him. I think if we can spend the Suarez money sensibly we can be a stronger team without Suarez, we sold Rush and replaced him with Beardsley, Barnes and Aldridge and Everton sold Rooney when they were hovering just above the relegation and spent there money wisely and went to being a top 8 team so it can be done. I think we are in a position were we don't have much to lose selling Suarez league position wise, we need to speculate to accumulate providing we invest the money wisely. Where do you think we would be without Suarez's goals this year, even if we bought a decent centre forward for 10-12m? Not 7th, probably below 10th. That said I think we will lose him this summer, not because we want to sell him, but because he would like to move on. i honestly don't think we would be that much worse off position wise if Suarez wasn't there. If you look at the way we play everything goes through Suarez so the team is set up to make him score, exactly the same as when we set up with Michael Owen in the team, when Owen left the style of play changed and the goals he usually scored were shared our amongst the team more, look what happend when Suarez was banned last season we were a better all round team which results showed and even this season against Newcastle players who don't normaly score stood up like Henderson and Borini. If Suarez wasn't here we would slip about 2 positions maximum.
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