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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I see what you mean now.

No they can't be that patient but is it up to the fans ? We don't appoint or sack managers. I woud like to bet plenty of Dortmund fans were moaning about Klopp and they have the Internet in Germany too


Not necessarily true that - if the fans want a manager gone, it's only a matter of time.

They have the internet in Germany???

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
German league is different to prem they are quasi publicly owned unlike the prem owned by rich foreign investors plus the prem is generally more money orientated hence short termism
not talking about that i was talking about the principal of giving a young manager a decent chance and its not all about if they have been superstars in the past .


The problem is, 'time' does not create a good manager otherwise no one would ever be sacked. Club history, financial pressures, expectations, previous achievements, club ownership all need to be taken in to consideration. Sitting back, crossing your fingers and relying on 'time' is laxy, amateurish, and un-proactive in th extremem.

If 'time' is all that is needed, then why pay Rodgers £2m a year when my next door neighbour's son would do it for £40 and a wrap of wizz?

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
German league is different to prem they are quasi publicly owned unlike the prem owned by rich foreign investors plus the prem is generally more money orientated hence short termism
not talking about that i was talking about the principal of giving a young manager a decent chance and its not all about if they have been superstars in the past .


Eh ? No what I am saying is the German league there is more opportunity to give time to a manager what's this about superstars?
stan superstar managers you know what i mean , as it stands FSG wont sack rodgers , but the fans want benitez or jose or someone else like that , now my point is if dortmund fans were like liverpool fans klopp might have been sacked , instead of being patient and being if it might come good .


By 'superstar', do you mean 'successful'?

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Klopp was a failure sent mainz down but dortmund gave him a chance and after two or so season his vision came good , but in liverpool's fans logic he would not ne suitable for LFC .

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Klopp was a failure sent mainz down but dortmund gave him a chance and after two or so season his vision came good , but in liverpool's fans logic he would not ne suitable for LFC .


What were the expectations of Mainz though, and what circumstances, restrictions and limitations was he working against? And when Dortmund took him on, where were they? What potential did he show at Mainz and what positives were there? You can't just make these wild remarks when you aren't in possession of all the facts.

Are you seriously suggesting that "Liverpool fans" shouldn't expect a proven manager, and that any old bloke will bring us success as long as we give him 'time'? How would you feel if Rodgers buggered off this summer and we took on mick mccarthy?

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Mick does a good interview.

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laugh

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So does Charlie Sheen...maybe we should get him in as manager/caretaker...


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So does Charlie Sheen...maybe we should get him in as manager/caretaker...


At least then we'd be "Winning"

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Time in football world means allowing the manger time to allow his football philosophy to be played for more or less at least 1 season with a squad that he himself has chosen to play for him.

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