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In seasons gone by we were hard to beat but might not score all the goals we should. Now we are banging them in for the most part, but leaking goals like a sieve. We need to strike a balance. Cut out the [oops] personal errors. Most of the goals we have conceded this season have been stupid. We've rarely been cut open by great play, but rather given the ball away with a personal error and then not been able to hand the counter, or given a free kick away on the edge of the box (Every time Lucas or Allen make a tackle) and we defend comically.

The thing is, everyone is talking about tiki-taka but we aren't playing tiki taka at all, far from it actually. We are playing pass and move, just like the old days....

Regardless of what we are playing, too much emphasis is being put on trying to play 'Beautiful football'. We should get a team that knows how to win games, and for that we need the right players. We do not have game changing players at current, bar Suarez .

Well I would add Stevie to that but in general I agree. Although Coutinho could also be viewed as a game changer with his trickery and passing ability. But yes, we need to strengthen.

Well I would hardly call it a success Marko, two years on and we look as though we'll be lucky to beat last years result in the league and out of all cups in march!
On top of that we have to endure the embarrassment of having to ask Man U of all people for advice on how to run a football club, for Christ's sake!!! What exactly do you need to call it a failed policy...relegation?

It's funny how you fail to mention the positives though...just look at the wage bill, finances, average squad age, movement on redevelopment issues...and whilst you all look at us speaking to the Glazers an Gazidis as a negative, I view it as a positive. For once we have owners who are not afraid to seek help when it is needed, and despite all our pride, it is needed. FSG are doing things that show they do have the best interests of LFC at heart. They have made mistakes, I agree, but they have also changes us into a self sufficient, sustainable club. There are some negatives, but there are also plenty of positives.

Rome wasn't built in a day and the same applies here. Some patience from us fans could go a long way, along with our support. It's much more constructive than demanding instant gratification.

So, it's hardly a failed strategy. Our foundations are more solid and stronger than they have been for the past 20 years. It's a start.

If you call shipping out our most experienced players just to save money a success, then you're like the accountant who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing!
If you call a mickey mouse redevelopment of Anfield to bring us to 15,000 seats behind our main rival, just to save the cost of having to compete with them, then again you're like said accountant! Worse in fact, since it puts us in their shade for a generation or more!
If you call going cap in hand to our main rival begging for help and embarrassing the club and fans, then you' re worse than said accountant, you have no shame!
If you call all of the above, together with their silly opta stats and moneyball approach to signing nothing but 'promising potentials', when we need top quality PL ready players, as something that will result in; "Our foundations are more solid and stronger than they have been for the past 20 years." You confirm my accountant comparison, since you obviously cant see beyond financial probity and are oblivious to our declining status relevant to our competitors.
If you call that a start Marko, we'll have to agree to disagree because I call that decline!

If you fail to accept the fact that redevelopment I our only option because the financial reality is that we can't afford a new stadium at this stage, then you my friend are delusional. Also if you call shipping out Kuyt, Maxi, Spearing and such shipping out our best experienced players, instead of realizing they were well past their prime, then you my friend are delusional. If you fail to see how much the likes of Cole were eating away at our wage bill, then you my friend are delusional. If you fail to recognize that most of these players were replaced with younger more promising potential, who can only improve with time, you my friend are delusional.

If you further attempt to put down others, and refuse to accept reality, that Coutinho, Sturridge, Allen are better prospects and can offer more than Maxi, Kuyt and Cole could this season and next, at a lower cost, and refuse to accept that there are positives whilst attempting to belittle anyone who's opinion might differ, then you my friend are worse than said "delusional".

And you my friend just confirmed my comparison of your position to that of the accountant who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing

Marco, when you say we cannot afford a new stadium, who is we? Yes, LFC cannot afford right now, but, if we had Abramovich or Sheik Mansoor as owners, we would have been able to afford it through their investment isn't it?

Regarding the players that were replaced, you are drawing a very small part of the picture to prove your point. Yes, Maxi, Kuyt Cole etc had passed their best, but should they have been replaced by under 21s, definitely no, they could have been replaced by proven more experienced players, but, of course they cost more.

Both of those decisions were taken to on a cost basis because our owners cannot or do not want to afford, decisions were not taken on a 'to win trophies basis', this is what I do not like with FSG.