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His net spend was just shy of 40 mil if you want to check your figures again.
Can I ask you one very simple question. Did Kenny spend 115 million on players? Regardless of if he had to sell players, he still spent that money.
Sorry, you're right, I was looking at the whole season and not transfers starting in January. The point still stands that BR has spend more than Kenny in less time with less rewards. The point is that money wasn't freely available. You can't claim an overall spend without looking at outgoings. Most of Kenny's spends were due to selling. If those players weren't sold, the money wouldn't be there to spend. The best spending that FSG did was the compensation for Kenny's sacking. Worth every penny (obviously, or they wouldn't have done it).
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His net spend was just shy of 40 mil if you want to check your figures again.
Can I ask you one very simple question. Did Kenny spend 115 million on players? Regardless of if he had to sell players, he still spent that money.
Sorry, you're right, I was looking at the whole season and not transfers starting in January. The point still stands that BR has spend more than Kenny in less time with less rewards. The point is that money wasn't freely available. You can't claim an overall spend without looking at outgoings. Most of Kenny's spends were due to selling. If those players weren't sold, the money wouldn't be there to spend. Did Kenny spend 115 mil though? regardless of the players sold he still deemed it good business to spend 35 mil of it on Carroll, 20 on Downing and 16 on Henderson. BR is still irrelevant to this argument.
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Don't forget, that the £18m for Mascherano also included his wages for 4 years!
I forgot about that
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Andy Carroll good signing ? I have heard everything now.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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[quote=Spice Boys][quote=Maxi88]
Rafas successful signings -
Luis Garcia - 6
Alonso - 10.5
Crouch - 7
Reina - 6
Agger - 5.8
Pennant(I thought he was good) - 6.7
Kuyt - 9
Arbeloa - 2.6
Mascherano - 18
Lucas - 6
Torres - 26.5
Benayoun - 5
Skrtel (50/50) - 6.5
Johnson - 17
Amounts to 132 mil. Outside of his final 2 seasons, his transfers were actually very good. His final 2 seasons also happened to be his poorest ones and led to his rightful dismissal I agree with all of those except that we didn't need Johnson and 17m was way too much to spend, we already had Arbeloa. Incidently we were a much poorer side after Hyppia and Arbeloa left. I would also add Sissoko, Insua, N'Gog, Kyrgiakos, Maxi and Riera as good signings. He let himself down in player sales though, Murphy, Owen, Baros, Hamann, Warnock, Sinama Pongolle, Cisse, Bellamy, Crouch, Guthrie, Riise, Kewell, Mihailov, Hyppia, Hobbs, Anderson, Hammill, Arbeloa were all sold too early. Funnily enough most are Houllier's signings. That's the difference between us and Man Utd, they know how to keep hold of players and only sell when they really have to. They also blood homegrown talent in to the team better than we do, during Rafa's time in charge, he favoured buying young Spanish flops than working with local talent.
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You've gotta feel sorry for the big useless lump. For many years to come he will remain as the record british transfer - and people will naturally blame him for being a a bit rubbish when the fee wasn't his fault. A thought must also go out to fellow reds as people will look back and without exception, will think, "what the fvck were liverpool thinking!?" cheers kenny, nice one.
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[quote=Spice Boys][quote=Maxi88]
Rafas successful signings -
Luis Garcia - 6
Alonso - 10.5
Crouch - 7
Reina - 6
Agger - 5.8
Pennant(I thought he was good) - 6.7
Kuyt - 9
Arbeloa - 2.6
Mascherano - 18
Lucas - 6
Torres - 26.5
Benayoun - 5
Skrtel (50/50) - 6.5
Johnson - 17
Amounts to 132 mil. Outside of his final 2 seasons, his transfers were actually very good. His final 2 seasons also happened to be his poorest ones and led to his rightful dismissal I agree with all of those except that we didn't need Johnson and 17m was way too much to spend, we already had Arbeloa. Incidently we were a much poorer side after Hyppia and Arbeloa left. I would also add Sissoko, Insua, N'Gog, Kyrgiakos, Maxi and Riera as good signings. He let himself down in player sales though, Murphy, Owen, Baros, Hamann, Warnock, Sinama Pongolle, Cisse, Bellamy, Crouch, Guthrie, Riise, Kewell, Mihailov, Hyppia, Hobbs, Anderson, Hammill, Arbeloa were all sold too early. Funnily enough most are Houllier's signings. That's the difference between us and Man Utd, they know how to keep hold of players and only sell when they really have to. They also blood homegrown talent in to the team better than we do, during Rafa's time in charge, he favoured buying young Spanish flops than working with local talent. Don't forget palleta and josemi.
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Don't forget palleta and josemi.
N'gog was good enough as a backup striker, he would have been quite useful to bring on from the bench over the last couple of seasons and Insua was a great young left back. Josemi and Palleta didn't offer us anything.
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Insua lacked the yard of pace for this level but was a decent enough player but was never really going to make it in the premier league.
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lol its net spend for rafa but overall spend for kenny by the way Rafa had a gross spend of 246mil. over the 6 years that amounts to 41mil. Kenny in 1.5 seasons spent 115. I'm sure you're smart enough to work out his average seasonal spend You should always look at net spend not gross, else we might sell our whole team, say for a 100m and then give 75m to the manager to replace everybody and say he had the highest budget ever in one transfer window. Does that make any sense to you?
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