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At the moment, Rodgers is a better manager than Kenny; despite his blank cheque book KD spent £130m taking us from 6th to 8th. That's right - with more financial backing than any manager in our history, Kenny took us backwards!!!!!!



In what way is Rodgers a better manager than Kenny? I seem to recall none of the players wanting him to leave, but if they had to replace him most of them wanted Rafa, I didn't hear or see anyone begging for Brendan Rodgers.

Kenny is a winner, Rodgers greatest achievement is lasting more than 6 months in a Managerial job.

If you want to get technical, Kenny spent 30 million in his 18 months in charge, Rodgers has spent 43m in 10 months, but I don't see you rimming BR about vast over spending.

It's a big lie that Kenny has spent more than any other manager in charge of this club as well, Rafa spent a hell of a lot more with much poorer results too.

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he had 18 months in which time he oversaw our worst premier league season and spent 100mil on expensive misfits.



18 months

In his first 6 months he stabilised the club and took us in to the top 6 from the bottom half of the table. We were in the top 3 in the form table.

In his first full season, we got to 2 cup finals and qualified for Europe by winning the League cup. Sure we finished in 8th, but we were winners again, our first trophy in 6 years is no small feet.

It's simple to use that 100m figure to bash him with, without having a look at his signings and not taking in to account outgoings.

-Suarez was signed for 23m, he's being touted at 40m now. He was banned for 7-8 games last season and before that was on mediocre form, obviously he was still getting use to the EPL. Great signing.
-Andy Carroll was injured for 3 months out of his first 6 for us. He took time to get back in to the flow again and many people were praising him by the end of the season. This season he has been injured quite a bit, but been on fantastic form at the end of this season. Average signing, but is young and has lots of potential.
-Craig Bellamy on a free transfer was amazing business, he was superb for us.
Joe Enrique has been our best left back since JAR. He only cost 6 million. Great signing.
-Charlie Adam was immense before joining us and was wanted by many teams including Man Utd. He ended up finishing the season with our most number of assists and grabbed a few goals too. He was wrongly sold this season, evidently by the fact he has outperformed most of our midfield. Good signing.
-Sebastian Coates was obviously signed to give Suarez some company, hotly tipped for the future, played well in the few games he played for us last season, shunned by Rodgers. Good signing.
-Jordan Henderson cost double what we should have paid for him, young, bags of potential and wanted by many teams, again inc. Man Utd. Was thrown in at the deep end last season and has been one of our better midfielders this season. Good signing.
-Stewart Downing, we needed a winger, we lost out on our 1st, 2nd and 3rd choices, he had just had a decent season, we overpaid for him. Poor signing.

As to our worst season, wasn't it Rodgers who had our worst start to a campaign in over a century. Didn't we get dumped out of the cups early doors this season, aren't we currently 10th in the form table and sitting in 7th, isn't it Rodgers who has only made 1 decent signing out of 53 million spent.


So we're completely glossing over the entire disterous league campaign last year are we?

Of his transfers Suarez and Bellamy were successful under Kenny. Adam was decent at the start but was generally poor as was Enrique. Downing and Henderson were very poor last season. Andy Carroll being signed for 35mil can hardly ever be described as an "average" signing.

How you have come to the conclusion also that Adam has outperformed our midfielders this year is frankly baffling??

Yes BR had our worst start? He will finish on a higher points tally and further up the table than Kenny but he is irrelevant to this thread.

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We finished 17 points behind the top 4 last year. We are currently 11 points behind them now


We are also 10th in the form guide and most of us gave up on top 4 a few months ago. We will also lose our Plan A soon for the rest of the season with a couple of tough matches coming up against Newcastle and Everton, let' see how many point we are behind then.


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At the moment, Rodgers is a better manager than Kenny; despite his blank cheque book KD spent £130m taking us from 6th to 8th. That's right - with more financial backing than any manager in our history, Kenny took us backwards!!!!!!



In what way is Rodgers a better manager than Kenny? I seem to recall none of the players wanting him to leave, but if they had to replace him most of them wanted Rafa, I didn't hear or see anyone begging for Brendan Rodgers.

Kenny is a winner, Rodgers greatest achievement is lasting more than 6 months in a Managerial job.

If you want to get technical, Kenny spent 30 million in his 18 months in charge, Rodgers has spent 43m in 10 months, but I don't see you rimming BR about vast over spending.

It's a big lie that Kenny has spent more than any other manager in charge of this club as well, Rafa spent a hell of a lot more with much poorer results too.


That transfer figure is incorrect to be technical but the fact remains that Kenny spent 115 mil on players

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lol its net spend for rafa but overall spend for kenny

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Originally Posted By: Spice Boys
Originally Posted By: Carheex


At the moment, Rodgers is a better manager than Kenny; despite his blank cheque book KD spent £130m taking us from 6th to 8th. That's right - with more financial backing than any manager in our history, Kenny took us backwards!!!!!!



In what way is Rodgers a better manager than Kenny? I seem to recall none of the players wanting him to leave, but if they had to replace him most of them wanted Rafa, I didn't hear or see anyone begging for Brendan Rodgers.

Kenny is a winner, Rodgers greatest achievement is lasting more than 6 months in a Managerial job.

If you want to get technical, Kenny spent 30 million in his 18 months in charge, Rodgers has spent 43m in 10 months, but I don't see you rimming BR about vast over spending.

It's a big lie that Kenny has spent more than any other manager in charge of this club as well, Rafa spent a hell of a lot more with much poorer results too.


You don't 'recall' any such thing as you never discussed the situation with the players and their thoughts on the issue have never been made public. By all means make stuff up or make wild assumptions, but don't use it as some kind of evidence.

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Where did I mention Rafa, or any other manager bar BR -who I didn't originally mention- in this thread?

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lol its net spend for rafa but overall spend for kenny


by the way Rafa had a gross spend of 246mil. over the 6 years that amounts to 41mil.

Kenny in 1.5 seasons spent 115. I'm sure you're smart enough to work out his average seasonal spend

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we still have the chance. we should say to BR thanks for the group mentality and all that but we are going back to kenny.

kenny gets somebody in to work on skrtel again , carra stays, carrol comes back and we get diame for the hammers. be like this season never happened.

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So we're completely glossing over the entire disterous league campaign last year are we?

Of his transfers Suarez and Bellamy were successful under Kenny. Adam was decent at the start but was generally poor as was Enrique. Downing and Henderson were very poor last season. Andy Carroll being signed for 35mil can hardly ever be described as an "average" signing.

How you have come to the conclusion also that Adam has outperformed our midfielders this year is frankly baffling??

Yes BR had our worst start? He will finish on a higher points tally and further up the table than Kenny but he is irrelevant to this thread.


It wasn't entirely disastrous though was it. If 8th is disastrous then surely this season's league campaign is just as bad, bare in mind we have only managed to beat 1 top side all season.

You can't say a signing is poor, if they then go on to play even better the following season.

C.Adam has outperformed most of our midfield this season. There's nothing baffling in that statement.

How do you know we will finish higher up the table and on more points this season, we could go on to lose our remaining games and finish 9th. How is BR irrelevant to this thread...oh I see because it's a slate Kenny thread and blame him for everything that has gone wrong over the last 2 decades, whilst we pretend we are in a much better place now with a world class manager who is going to win everything in the game.

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