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Given influx of Sheiks, Oligarchs and Yanks into ownership of our clubs, together with the arrival of an increasing number of players from every corner of the globe, I've been wondering what the opinion of fans are around this issue?
On one level I feel it could be considered a progressive development, as it brings in additional capital and some of the worlds best players to the PL, and through world wide television allows us to enjoy other national leagues.
At another level I feel that something's been lost in this development, things like our sense of fellowship, of community, of ownership of our club and even of the game, a sense of closeness to the players, club management and owners.
Then theres the effect globalisation has had on the league/club structure in terms of financing and costs, what with wage and transfer cost inflation together with the development of a two tier league; those which inhabit the top level, and those at the bottom, being pushed into, or to the brink of bankruptcy.
Then there's the pressure of wage and cost inflation all that has brought to bear on ticket prices on ticket prices, we've had much debate on that subject here recently, led for the most part by two of our top and most respected posters.
For them I've strung the following words together:

Some folks might think my fandom quite fortuitous,
Overlapping as it did our golden age,
But in hindsight now that seems a mite gratuitous,
Considering what was coming centre stage!

The first man made star appeared in fifty seven,
Like some portend of biblical proportion,
And wrote it's message clear across the heavens;
The age of globalisation was in motion!

Some smart Soviet said; that up there's a Sputnik,
The plutocracy said; that there's a wake up call!
And I still a boy, dreaming of being a Beatnik,
Kicked my pigs bladder and said nothing at-all!

The Lisbon Lions would still win the European Cup,
To gladden Glasgow hearts and Jock Stein,
But for local neighbourhood teams the game was up,
And soon would seem as though they'd never been!

Now we sit and cheer for names we can't pronounce,
From parts of the world we never even heard;
On such wages as would make your poor head bounce,
And wonder what became of the game we shared!

While clubs now owned by Oligarch, Sheik and Yank,
Are pricing their gates beyond you and me;
And on our iPhones we lodge payments to their Bank,
For to watch their plastic game on BSkyB!

So now if you still think my fandom was fortuitous,
Well friend I would invite you this to try;
Just think of what they've taken from the two of us;
And you can have my shoulder while you cry!

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Love the poem annefield and very true.

I don't understand the global game I don't see how it will work. It's fine when you are like man utd but fall out of that too bracket and you are in trouble. Just increasing ticket prices when you have no product will ultimately fail. I don't care why anyone says.


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Yeah and not to mention the effect this global influx is having on homegrown talent, its getting to the stage where homegrown players can' get a foot on the ladder unless they're absolute prodigies. The point I'm trying to make here is that theres both good and bad in this development but it's "politically incorrect" to mention the bad parts nowadays!

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Good definitely, but, you need to know how to change. Manure understood how it all works and keep on taking maximum advantage of it, those who cannot adapt will perish.

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What's good about it ?

The model in the 80's was better with match going fans that could have been updated to the modern age. What we are heading for is ordinary fans watching on the tv with the match day fans being corporate.

Ultimately that's the way it will end up.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
What's good about it ?

The model in the 80's was better with match going fans that could have been updated to the modern age. What we are heading for is ordinary fans watching on the tv with the match day fans being corporate.

Ultimately that's the way it will end up.


At least more people/fans can watch the games, live, on tv or in the stadium. There is a price and a choice for more people, definitely better.

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I don't agree vish how can you say more people watch the games a generation of fans priced out. We could still have the tv viewers without ths model.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I don't agree vish how can you say more people watch the games a generation of fans priced out. We could still have the tv viewers without ths model.


Why are they not doing it then? I am comparing modern football to what it was in the 80s and I reiterate that the fans being priced out (because others can pay more like it is in capitalism as you know very well being from the right) can now watch on tv, they have a choice (as it is in a liberal system). I am sure you know what I mean.

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It was on tv in the eighties itv not as extensive as sky but then nothing like as e expensive either. Sky is £250 a year never mind anfield which s only for the rich.

I aslo think football is being over exposed on tv at the moment people are be be becoming bored with it. Same with merchandising Liverpool can't give it away these days.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
It was on tv in the eighties itv not as extensive as sky but then nothing like as e expensive either. Sky is £250 a year never mind anfield which s only for the rich.

I aslo think football is being over exposed on tv at the moment people are be be becoming bored with it. Same with merchandising Liverpool can't give it away these days.


It was not globalised then mate, couldn't get it in Mauritius, may be just localised, in UK.

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