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Wasn't the advice from Rick Parry good enough? whistle


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Originally Posted By: Carheex
This is a new embarassment. What kind of owners buy a club that they don't know how to run, and then ask their biggest rivals for help and advice?! You couldn't make this up. Unbelievable!! Whilst I will always support Liverpool, it is getting to the stage now where I am almost ashamed to admit it in public.

Yeah over two years of learning time later, they turn to United for help!
Here's their pilgrim progress thus far:
First they spot a potential bargain in an unknown league playing an unknown game (to them they buy it on a whim, they leave a failing manager in place until near the relegation zone, they sack him, appoint a temporary manager who employs a similar style of play, he rescues the situation, they appoint him on a 3 year contract, he gets to two cup finals, wins one and finishes in 8th place, they notice how Barca are playing and say ah that looks lovely, we want to play like that, they sack their manager, appoint a young unproven manager who likes the Barca style, but now they realise they've funded the purchase of a lot of players (to the tune of 100m+) suited to the style of the previous two managers and are unsuited to their new dream of Barca style football, but now they discover there's there's no money left in the kitty, so they say; let's try 'moneyball' its cheap and it sorta works for baseball and it might work for football, so it might, it doesn't, they're floundering, they ask themselves; what do we do now? No one has a clue, so they turn to their chief rival for help. How's that for owners? How's that for business acumen? I say these clowns should go and they should go now.

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Its of absolutely no benefit for them to give FSG advice, would aldi give lidl advice on how to make more customers? Same difference.

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Originally Posted By: Phony
Its of absolutely no benefit for them to give FSG advice, would aldi give lidl advice on how to make more customers? Same difference.


What an obscure and bizarre example! smile

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Lol makes sense though when u think about it, 1 rival is NEVER gonna give another rival advice thats in any way good to them. I can just see Glazer now "Well Tom best way to start is to sell Suarez to us for £30 million, we'll sell ye back Welbeck though for £35 million so you'll get a better deal"

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Wellbeck would have to be £15m - we'll take any old cr@p in px for our best players as long as we make '£15m profit'....apparently.

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Originally Posted By: Marko2709
The advice will be genuine becAuse I doubt the glazers have a personal agenda against LFC like Fergie does. Also they approached Ivan Gazidis from Arsenal too. They are just gathering knowledge and comparing approaches. I think it shows they are interested in the long term and that they want what is best for LFC. They would not be doing this if they didn't want to be here long term, as I have said all along.

Those of you who think it's a huge embarrassment asking for advice, remember, we are not asking united or arsenal for help, but rather the glazers and GAzidis to compare their business models to ours. The fact that papers come with a headline that might as well read "Liverpool beg united for help" means nothing. It's rubbish...sensationalism.


It said it before, FSG is completely lost and I could not understand their business plan because probably it doesn't make sense. There is no 10 ways, if they want to get Manure type return they will need to invest and invest big, not 40m of their own money over 3 years. They need to invest in a big stadium, get a proven trophy winner as manager and give him funds to buy players and wait for us to start winning things.

It's not rocket science, however, I don't think that investing in a football club is a good investment. Kraft who was one of the first investors Rick Parry approached more than a decade ago wanted to have a wage cap introduced, but he understood that he will not win much trophies with this and LFC value would go down.

Arsenal has a good model to make money in the long time, but they were lucky to have Wenger and Highbury was quite valuable being in London. Despite this they won nothing for a decade and are not spending on players, they have a wage cap as well. Don't think I would be happy with such a model and with modern football, without trophies, very lucrative sponsorship deals will be difficult to sign. With City and Chelsea having owners who spend big, top 4 will not be easy as Manure and Arsenal will have more revenues than us.

FSG has one bet and it is FFP. They will find out soon if it was a good bet or not. Now, we could make money by not spending loads as we do have currently a decent revenue base, but, this would be called milking the cow and is not a long term strategy. If they don't find a buyer, they might choose this strategy and recoup the 340m invested in 10 years (Arsenal would have made such profits I think in the last 10 yrs if the finance charges regarding the stadium is excluded, but then they have a 60k seater with the most expensive ticket price which we don't have), not sure if realistic.

It's fair to say that FSG is in [oops] and LFC with them. Hopefully they find a rich Arab looking to buy pride.

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Originally Posted By: Phony
Lol makes sense though when u think about it, 1 rival is NEVER gonna give another rival advice thats in any way good to them. I can just see Glazer now "Well Tom best way to start is to sell Suarez to us for £30 million, we'll sell ye back Welbeck though for £35 million so you'll get a better deal"

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Based on our current over all revenue, how much would we be able to spend on players each year?

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Originally Posted By: Carheex
This is a new embarassment. What kind of owners buy a club that they don't know how to run, and then ask their biggest rivals for help and advice?! You couldn't make this up. Unbelievable!! Whilst I will always support Liverpool, it is getting to the stage now where I am almost ashamed to admit it in public.


Me too I treat it as a joke now can't take the club seriously anymore. I now only go to anflield for social reason e.g same people for 30 years and its a habit. Watching the reds is in my blood but I would go to maybe three games a season and watch on tv ideally. I have no optimism whatsoever for next season more of the same I expect performance wise.


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