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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
don't think we can totally dismiss the cups as luck. 2 cup finals in one season is a reflection of the importance we gave to the competetions.

Kenny did better than BR in the short term. But the suggestion is that BR is laying the foundations for more sustainable success with a better quality, more sophiticated product. The problem with that though is that it's a promise of jam tomorrow - we won't know if it pans out that way until another season or two. The signs are mixed at the moment, but imo the balance is on the right side of keeping and supporting BR. Other factors that support this call are the need for stability and the lack of an alternative that is any less of a gamble.



It's also a reflection as to how little some clubs valued the cups. Stan is right, the cups are a LOT to do with luck. Look at the league cup - for the last 10-15 years, half of the finalists have come from outside of the premier league......big clubs have bigger fish to fry - kenny admitted that himself. And look at the FA cup - it's going in the same direction as the league cup. More and more we are seeing 2nd rate sides in the final because it is very low priority for clubs at the top of the table or trying to get into/stay in europe.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
She hated football fans faz with damn good reason or have you forgotten what football was like in the 70's and 80's. her cabinet wanted her to ban professional football entirely at one time which she rejected. Also that every fan had to carry an indenty. Card again she rejected.

So she did not hate football as much as her cabinet.

And anther thing plenty of the general public hated football back then too because of the voilence and so to ban it might have been a vote winner but she rejected it.

Was she a football liker ? No probably not but so what ?

I seem to remember at anflield we had a minutes silence for sept 11th. So it's not done whether you like or not but for national events and this is a national event like her or loath her. But I do accept the clash with hillsborough.


are you saying that because thatcher was unwilling to ban football that she is therefore worthy of a minutes silence at anfield? as if that's some kind of cloaked achievement for her?

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Thatcher will receive 90 minutes of booing way before she gets a minutes silence at Anfield - And quite rightly so!

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Originally Posted By: Carheex
Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
don't think we can totally dismiss the cups as luck. 2 cup finals in one season is a reflection of the importance we gave to the competetions.

Kenny did better than BR in the short term. But the suggestion is that BR is laying the foundations for more sustainable success with a better quality, more sophiticated product. The problem with that though is that it's a promise of jam tomorrow - we won't know if it pans out that way until another season or two. The signs are mixed at the moment, but imo the balance is on the right side of keeping and supporting BR. Other factors that support this call are the need for stability and the lack of an alternative that is any less of a gamble.



It's also a reflection as to how little some clubs valued the cups. Stan is right, the cups are a LOT to do with luck. Look at the league cup - for the last 10-15 years, half of the finalists have come from outside of the premier league......big clubs have bigger fish to fry - kenny admitted that himself. And look at the FA cup - it's going in the same direction as the league cup. More and more we are seeing 2nd rate sides in the final because it is very low priority for clubs at the top of the table or trying to get into/stay in europe.


Not sure about that for the FA Cup. Yesterday both City and Chelsea put their best teams, even Manure lost by playing their best team. Yes you can have some luck when it comes to the draw, but, you will need to be the best team on most of the days to reach the final. Last year, didn't we kick both Manchester teams out of the Cups, and they definitely played their best teams as much I can remember. Everybody remembers trophy winners and the achievements are always listed (haven't you just said in an earlier post that Everton won nothing for 20 years), and everybody forgets the teams coming second whichever the competition.

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Originally Posted By: KingoftheKop
Thatcher will receive 90 minutes of booing way before she gets a minutes silence at Anfield - And quite rightly so!


Oi Oi Sir i'd highly agree with that

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet

That picture tells it's own story Kop. You know I always thought she was stark raving mad, and not just because of what she said, but (like Carson) the way she said it including her general demeanor. That was a great op by Dunk, and well said Kenny Dalglish.

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