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Hi, me again. laugh

Reading over todays threads and posts I just can't help but to post my views. Maybe I am crazy, but it goes again.

I am under the impression that at the moment there are a lot of fans on here who are demanding instant success. Now don't get me wrong, I want success too, and as soon as possible, but there is a limit as too how far i would go for that success.

Stanley Park had a post simillar to this a while back where he said that he would rather the club were in the championship with lower ticket prices, but the average Joe was able to attend. It is never clearer to me than now, as to exactly what he meant. It's not that he or myself don't want the very best for Liverpool football club, but rather that there are limits as to how far we would go for it.

Now, when I say how far I would go for it, I don't mean how much effort I would put in, but rather, would I go against my beliefs and ethics for it.

I have seen many many fans calling for FSG to sell, and calling for Sheihks or russians..I said it when H and G took over, and again when FSG took over..I would rather have them than a Sheikh who will just throw millions our way. Sure. having the money would be great, but if we won the title that way, would it not feel like cheating to you? It would to me..

The only reason Chelsea and city have won the title is because they through millions and millions at it. They bought the title.

To me, that is against my ethics. I want the title, but not like that. Has the fight for justice taught us nothing? Than when you fight, long enough and hard enough, eventually you will get the reward. Liverpool football club, to me always emphasised that fighting spirit. It is the reason I started supporting Liverpool way back in the day. It is that belief and feeling of family amongst the fans and citizens of Liverpool that makes us so special.

I will rather wait another 10 years to win the title the right way, than buy it. It's about overcoming all the odds, beating the bullies. It's David and Goliath. It's about brains versus brawn. We can make it happen if we keep to our values.

Liverpool Fc is not just a football club, it is an institution, a synonym for success and belief. We the fans, along with the players and staff have created that image of LIverpool.

I am afraid though, that now, in one of our darkest hours, we have forgotten everything that we believe in and that made us so great. We have abandoned those values, that loyalty and belief.

I want to make it very clear, that we the fans, are just as responsible for the image of our club in the eyes of the world, as any player/manager/owner. At the moment I am afraid we are sending out a very bad picture.

Remember, Liverpool football club is a part of our lives, it is a source of inspiration for so many. Liverpool Fc embodies the values that believe in. Don't let the club down by deserting it in one of it's darkest hours. Rather get up, support the club and understand that values come before success.

Once again, I am asking you all, to try and put the bad results behind you, to have patience, to have belief, but most of all, to do your part to show the world why we are the best fans in the world.

The fans are an integral part of Liverpool FC, and a vital component in any success or failure. We cannot demand that the club performs on the pitch, if we are not performing in the stands or when the world is watching. We should not be childish and petty and ask that the players perform first, and then us. What we have to do is show our love for the club and the values it stands for.

We can try and blame whoever we want, be it the owners or the manager or the players, but how can we really blame anybody if we can't say WE GAVE IT OUR ALL?

Liverpool FC is not just a football club, it is a way of life, it what I believe in, it is my shining light at the end of the tunnel.

Let us not forget what Liverpool is to each and every one of us and what it stands for. What would past fans say about some of the behaviour nowadays? What would those who have bled LFC do?

LIVERPOOL FC- IT'S NOT JUST A FOOTBALL CLUB.

http://youtu.be/e5UhF1ZF8IM

YNWA


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Calm down Marko

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I'm calm CF, just trying to rally the troops and trying to make a difference.


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lol i'm not coolflames i'm Horgo why is everyone saying that, i know yeah i'm not to down by todays result our season is already over, i do think next season we can really push but i'm sick of saying that, today it was a good performance from their keeper on most occasions but at times we should have finished better, they are a championship side at best and handed the game to us, nEverton can go 8 clear of us with their game in hand now too, we need 2 quality centre backs, a quality centre midfielder and a quality striker/winger in the summer and i dont see us signing quality in each of them positions as it will be too costly

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Sounds good Marko. I might be wrong as I haven't read it though. Il get round to it later probably.


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Ok so I finally got round to reading it and I must say I agree with most of it. However I do think that it,along with everything else I've read on here today, is a bit doom and gloom. I mean yea, we drew with reading, that was a bit sh!t but I mean comon let's cheer up. We are not in too bad a position IMO. When I look at the league I feel that there's not a single team we couldn't beat, we just struggle with consistency. Personally I don't feel it's that hard to get. Yea everyone wants results now but let's be realistic, it takes time. We have got young players, we have got world class players( yea only a few) and we got that classic Liverpool spirit. I think that that will see us get back to the top. It's not gonna happen overnight and it may never happen at all but what I love about us is we will never stop trying. Even when everyone on this forum is long dead and gone( God forbid that happen anytime soon) there will still be people trying to restore this club to its former glory. I understand that it may not happen before I die but I really hope it does and no matter what happens I am always comforted by the knowledge that there will always be people trying to rebuild the club right up until the sun dies out and the world ends( yes that will happen someday. Sad right?) Also I ink some of the motivational videos you posted today( while they may be class and help others get sycked up) aren't the type we need. I think that when the chips are down you just need to take your mind off football and have a good laugh. So if anyone else is like me here I hope these help.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sYZpJsO1rsg

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnZ2XdqGZWU

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2H1YWaHvYU


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Hey Hendo,

I agree with what you are saying, actually it's exactly what I am trying to say. That's what Liverpool represents to, a neverending fight, a fight to get to the top, a fight for justice...and no matter how many times we might fail, we never quit trying. I am just afraid that some on here are beggining to lose faith and I don't want to allow that...

That's all...


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Marko I agree with your sentiments to an e extent. But remember the Liverpool of old bought in the title in a way. They had more money than other clubs maybe not at first but once they started to win European cups they outspent other clubs. You cannot divorce money from the sucess of a football club. I would rather Liverpool had a rich owner allowing us to compete at the top or the other way where we were in the championship but connected to the fans. Where we are now is unconnected to the fans and not successful the worst of all worlds. And why do you think we.will win the title in ten years ?


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Originally Posted By: Marko2709
Hi, me again. laugh

Reading over todays threads and posts I just can't help but to post my views. Maybe I am crazy, but it goes again.

I am under the impression that at the moment there are a lot of fans on here who are demanding instant success. Now don't get me wrong, I want success too, and as soon as possible, but there is a limit as too how far i would go for that success.

Stanley Park had a post simillar to this a while back where he said that he would rather the club were in the championship with lower ticket prices, but the average Joe was able to attend. It is never clearer to me than now, as to exactly what he meant. It's not that he or myself don't want the very best for Liverpool football club, but rather that there are limits as to how far we would go for it.

Now, when I say how far I would go for it, I don't mean how much effort I would put in, but rather, would I go against my beliefs and ethics for it.

I have seen many many fans calling for FSG to sell, and calling for Sheihks or russians..I said it when H and G took over, and again when FSG took over..I would rather have them than a Sheikh who will just throw millions our way. Sure. having the money would be great, but if we won the title that way, would it not feel like cheating to you? It would to me..

The only reason Chelsea and city have won the title is because they through millions and millions at it. They bought the title.

To me, that is against my ethics. I want the title, but not like that. Has the fight for justice taught us nothing? Than when you fight, long enough and hard enough, eventually you will get the reward. Liverpool football club, to me always emphasised that fighting spirit. It is the reason I started supporting Liverpool way back in the day. It is that belief and feeling of family amongst the fans and citizens of Liverpool that makes us so special.

I will rather wait another 10 years to win the title the right way, than buy it. It's about overcoming all the odds, beating the bullies. It's David and Goliath. It's about brains versus brawn. We can make it happen if we keep to our values.

Liverpool Fc is not just a football club, it is an institution, a synonym for success and belief. We the fans, along with the players and staff have created that image of LIverpool.

I am afraid though, that now, in one of our darkest hours, we have forgotten everything that we believe in and that made us so great. We have abandoned those values, that loyalty and belief.

I want to make it very clear, that we the fans, are just as responsible for the image of our club in the eyes of the world, as any player/manager/owner. At the moment I am afraid we are sending out a very bad picture.

Remember, Liverpool football club is a part of our lives, it is a source of inspiration for so many. Liverpool Fc embodies the values that believe in. Don't let the club down by deserting it in one of it's darkest hours. Rather get up, support the club and understand that values come before success.

Once again, I am asking you all, to try and put the bad results behind you, to have patience, to have belief, but most of all, to do your part to show the world why we are the best fans in the world.

The fans are an integral part of Liverpool FC, and a vital component in any success or failure. We cannot demand that the club performs on the pitch, if we are not performing in the stands or when the world is watching. We should not be childish and petty and ask that the players perform first, and then us. What we have to do is show our love for the club and the values it stands for.

We can try and blame whoever we want, be it the owners or the manager or the players, but how can we really blame anybody if we can't say WE GAVE IT OUR ALL?

Liverpool FC is not just a football club, it is a way of life, it what I believe in, it is my shining light at the end of the tunnel.

Let us not forget what Liverpool is to each and every one of us and what it stands for. What would past fans say about some of the behaviour nowadays? What would those who have bled LFC do?

LIVERPOOL FC- IT'S NOT JUST A FOOTBALL CLUB.

http://youtu.be/e5UhF1ZF8IM

YNWA



Are you working for FSG or what? Same posts under different threads, quite boring to me.

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You are free to stop participating....yet you chose not to.


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