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Originally Posted By: *** Suso ***
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I guess the plan would have been to bring on Sturridge at that time, not Assaidi. Out of Suso, Assaidi & Shelvey, I would have definitely chosen Suso..don't know why BR isn't playing him more.


Because he isn't very good, obviously.
go and wash your mouth with soap mad


grin

Well, if you can think of a better explanation........

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We didn't have a plan B. That was the problem.

If we had someone big up front like carroll taking the flak from the 2 centre backs, suarez n co would have found more space on the ground.

We were sending aerial balls into the box with no one to head!

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Originally Posted By: mightyreds
We didn't have a plan B. That was the problem.

If we had someone big up front like carroll taking the flak from the 2 centre backs, suarez n co would have found more space on the ground.

We were sending aerial balls into the box with no one to head!


And getting corners was completely useless, we had to pass the ball instead of crossing in the box. We have been doing this for weeks now. On that front we are just like Barca

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Johnson deserves the criticism at the moment. He does the same thing every time - and that makes it easy for defenders. He never goes to the byline and hardly ever crosses - you just know he's going to cut in and then lose the ball. He also gets caught out of position more than any of our other defenders. Conversely, I thought Enrique did quite well, although he doesn't seem to get forward as much lately.

It is worrisome how our midfield gets overrun by so many teams these days. With Gerrard sitting so deep there is just not enough dynamism between him, Lucas and Hendo going forward. It's all too pedestrian much of the game. I thought Coutinho did ok - although not always the greatest at tracking back - but Downing was absolutely awful for his 20 minutes. He gave the ball away or stumbled over his feet to the point that I was glad to see the back of him. So many attacks break down when the ball gets to Downing.

Up front I thought Suarez and Sturridge were off the pace. While Suarez keeps trying and you have to admire that - he often goes into desperation mode early in the game, trying to do everything himself. It's frustrating to watch but you can sort of understand why when none of our three midfielders hardly ever get into the box from open play. Sturridge was maddening and his form has been poor for the last 3-4 games. Not once did he hold the ball up and bring people into play - but tried a series of fancy flicks that just lost us the ball and set up a counter attack for the opposition. By comparison, I watched the much smaller Tevez give a master class in holding the ball up against ManU - and this is what Sturridge should be bringing to our game. He's big and quick and needs to learn how to use these attributes - instead of the cute Messi flicks.



Good observation however have a few comments as follows:

Crossing: I feel that Johnson is not supposed to cross as we do not have the right players to head the ball. It's the same even on corners, this is our system of play, our tallest player (bar centre backs) is Gerrard who is playing deep so who will he heading crosses?

Downing: He was apparently sick so not fair to judge on this game which he tried only for 20mins

Suarez: He looked tired, is he too stretched?

Sturridge: He played more like a winger, not sure it is his best position and not sure if he is match fit neither.

Midfield: we have 3 persons playing there and both Sturridge and Coutinho prefer to stay high, and a team defending will have a crowded midfield, thus we struggled.

WH parked the bus and we usually find it hard to score in such situation, nothing new, our game looks very complicated in those situation, while United in such cases plays it simple and nick it on set pieces very often or deviated crosses.

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Johnson deserves the criticism at the moment. He does the same thing every time - and that makes it easy for defenders. He never goes to the byline and hardly ever crosses - you just know he's going to cut in and then lose the ball. He also gets caught out of position more than any of our other defenders. Conversely, I thought Enrique did quite well, although he doesn't seem to get forward as much lately.

It is worrisome how our midfield gets overrun by so many teams these days. With Gerrard sitting so deep there is just not enough dynamism between him, Lucas and Hendo going forward. It's all too pedestrian much of the game. I thought Coutinho did ok - although not always the greatest at tracking back - but Downing was absolutely awful for his 20 minutes. He gave the ball away or stumbled over his feet to the point that I was glad to see the back of him. So many attacks break down when the ball gets to Downing.

Up front I thought Suarez and Sturridge were off the pace. While Suarez keeps trying and you have to admire that - he often goes into desperation mode early in the game, trying to do everything himself. It's frustrating to watch but you can sort of understand why when none of our three midfielders hardly ever get into the box from open play. Sturridge was maddening and his form has been poor for the last 3-4 games. Not once did he hold the ball up and bring people into play - but tried a series of fancy flicks that just lost us the ball and set up a counter attack for the opposition. By comparison, I watched the much smaller Tevez give a master class in holding the ball up against ManU - and this is what Sturridge should be bringing to our game. He's big and quick and needs to learn how to use these attributes - instead of the cute Messi flicks.



In the absence of a target man that can actually header the ball, cutting inside and keeping the ball on the ground is probably the best option, and no doubt what BR has told GJ to do. If the ball is on the ground and we can get it to Suarez we have a goal scoring opportunity. What happens if we cross it in? Suarez isn't going to win it so it would actually increase our chance of losing possession.

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
erm.... there is no rule that crosses have to be high and aimed at heads all the time. Johnson get get to the byline and cut it back - or play an angled ball across the box for Suarez or a late arriving Coutinho. My point is that a good fullback has a variety of options and keeps the opposition guessing. I know what Johnson is going to do every time he gets the ball... so you know there left back does too.


It's not a cross but a pass you are talking about and usually in such situations, it is the mid fielders who would be the target, when Gerrard was a box to box midfield player, this is what he was doing, who can do that in our team now? Anyway, if GJ keeps on cutting inside most of the time, it should be that this is what has been agreed with BR, else he would't do it so often. For me GJ is one of the best right full backs of the league.

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Johnson is a very poor defender and very average attacking Full Back, IMO he needs to be back up for RB and LB or sold. The guy costs us far more golas than he creates by ball watching.

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I wonder how many of our goals come from crosses and how many come from play through the middle?

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