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Whilst I am impressed with the fact that BR finally has Downing playing football, I am shocked to hear he is no longer available for transfer. I am shocked by the fact that no one has commented on Downings interview where he openly says that he upped his game when he was told he could leave, and was basically playing For a better transfer. All that says to me is that he had it in him but wasn't giving it 100% before that. It means that playing for the reds was not a big enough motivation for him.

I think this is an even better reason to get rid of him. Despite the upward trend in his form, if a player openly states that he can play better and can try harder but wasn't willing to, then he has got to go! LFC and BR should only accept players willing to give 110% for the club and the crest! Anyone slacking and being lazy should be dropped and sold immediately! I am not talking about one bad game, but half a season lads, or a full season. That's unacceptable!

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That's a meaningless argument to me. Kenny still spent 120 million pounds, whether he had torres, meireles, and Babel's sales to prop it up or not.

Kenny Spent 120 million on: Suarez, Downing, Henderson, Adam, Carroll, Doni, Coates, Enrique, and Bellamy.

Suarez, Bellamy, and Enrique are the only three signings that most would consider worth what we paid (and Bellamy we got for free). Even now with downing and hendo playing well, does anyone think they're worth what we paid? They certainly weren't last season anyway. Adam was dire, and Coates hasn't shown us whether he's right for us or not, and Lord knows where Doni's been.

He sold Torres, Meireles, Babel, Konchesky, Poulsen, Kieragos, Jovanavic, El Zhar, N'gog, Ayala, Insua, Ince, degen, Hansen, and Bruna. He also loaned Cole and Aquilani.

That's 75 million worth of club assets that he wasted, leaving our squad incredibly thin. A lot of this was dead wood, but Meireles and Torres were important first team contributors, and apart from Carroll N'gog was our only back up striker. None of them were replaced. Were Carroll, Adam, Hendo, and Downing better than Torres and Meireles, or even Babel and N'gog last season? Was Coates really any better than Soto? Ince wasn't given a sniff and sold, but now we seem to want him back. Carroll wasn't even much better than N'gog, certainly not 35 million worth.


Brendan on the other hand spent 45 million on Allen, Sturridge, Assaidi, Yessil, Texiera, Coutinho, and Borini. Also Sahin on loan.

Sahin looked a sure bet when we got him. Bundesliga player of the year, RM prodigy, but it didn't work. Allen was very good at the start, but faded with injury. Still could do well. Borin started slow and has been unlucky with injury, but he could come good. Sturridge has been great, and Coutinho's been great. Assaidi cost nothing, so not worried if he doesn't make it. Yessil looks bright.

He sold Cole, Aurelio, Aquilani, Amoo, Darby, Eccleston, Adam, Maxi, Kuyt, Doni, and Bellamy. He also loaned out Spearing, Carroll, and Pacheco.

That was only about 10 million worth of resources.

Most of the outgoing were frees, loans, or small transfers for aging players. Kuyt, Maxi, and Bellamy were good players for us, but they were old (with the exeption of craig), slow, and their time had past. Bellamy and Maxi wanted to go home, and Kuyt, though clutch in a few big games, was not the contributor he once was. Furthermore, they've been more or less effectively replaced by Coutinho, Sturridge, and the rise of Sterling.

Br has also made Hendo, Downin, and Suarez into far more effective players than they were last season. He's also brought Sterling, Suso, and Wisdom into the fold as valuable squad members.

Net spend is a loaded and useless term. Kenny used and wasted more of the cub's resources, full stop. 120 million. Compared to that, BR hasn't spent anything. Br had lest to work with from the get go, and a better percentage of his buys worked out. His failed buys were also a lot less costly.

I also think we are better but I am shocked at by certain things. For example BR having a go at Sterling but allowing Diwning to openly state he hasn't tried his best in the past. I despise Downing now, I really don't want him in the team after he admitted that he was lazy and didn't give it his all.

Here I am stretching my nerves, on an emotional rollercoaster through every single LFC match, whilst Downing is taking a stroll on the pitch! "oh but it's all ok cause he improved when he started playing for a transfer" ! I'd sell him to Gateshead that pompous [oops]!

Whilst I am impressed with the fact that BR finally has Downing playing football, I am shocked to hear he is no longer available for transfer. I am shocked by the fact that no one has commented on Downings interview where he openly says that he upped his game when he was told he could leave, and was basically playing For a better transfer. All that says to me is that he had it in him but wasn't giving it 100% before that. It means that playing for the reds was not a big enough motivation for him.

I think this is an even better reason to get rid of him. Despite the upward trend in his form, if a player openly states that he can play better and can try harder but wasn't willing to, then he has got to go! LFC and BR should only accept players willing to give 110% for the club and the crest! Anyone slacking and being lazy should be dropped and sold immediately! I am not talking about one bad game, but half a season lads, or a full season. That's unacceptable!

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He said once BR told him he could go he decided to up his performance and play for a transfer....which obviously means he could up his performance, but didn't beforehand.

When did Downing say this??