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I think you have pretty much hit the nail on the head there Vish mate. The only thing is, I can see Arsenal starting to win trophies soon enough. They have set the foundations and will start reaping the rewards soon in my opinion. As at as te red sox are concerned I do believe they aren't performing great at the moment but remember that they won the world series under FSG after something like 20 years . I think FSG have made a very smart move by investing in some youngsters like Sterling, Assaidi, Ibe etc, I really feel they will turn into great players and I cannot stress enough the role BR has played in their development. I am not his greatest fan but I have to give him credit for that.
When I get home I will post one more graph which is quite interesting, it is a wins to player cost ratio, which has shown constant increase over the years. Vish has hit the nail on the head. FSG will not generate enough extra revenue by increasing ticket prices i(in fact they will lose revenue or be neutral) and by so called increasing the fan base. No idea what that means but if t means getting people in Asia to say they are a Liverpool, fan and buying a shirt I can't see how that will increase our revenue relative to our rivals. Remember man utd city Chelsea arsenal are all doing the same. You have not put forward any arguments why FSG will progress ths club other than links off the Internet. And you are the only person on this forum who believes FSG will succeed with us. That must tell you something
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You are spurting blatant lies, several posters have agreed with me. Furthermore I don't see anyone other than you, Faz and GNP arguing your corner. Also, it is something that will increase the revenue o the club, which hasn't been done up to now. If you call China, a market of 1.5 billion people an insignificant market it say enough about the validity of your arguments.
Furthermore, a report from the European Commission, is not just an Internet link, it is based on extensive research, much more extensive than your research of asking a buddy. You haven't provided a single piece of evidence to support any of your arguments an have been repeatedly proven wrong.
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Lads, I was off the forum for a few days through illness but I have come back to see the same tit for tat rubbish is still going on, it will eventually lead to one thing, dont say you haven't been warned.
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Did you know that since 2002 since FSG took over the RED SOX seat and standing tickets price have Doubled and more. http://www.bostonspastime.com/fenwayseating.htmlheck it for ya self they are up to no good. Woud you pay £100 quid a ticket to watch Liverpool in say the next 6 or seven years. Get the [oops] out.!!!!!!!!
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You are spurting blatant lies, several posters have agreed with me. Furthermore I don't see anyone other than you, Faz and GNP arguing your corner. Also, it is something that will increase the revenue o the club, which hasn't been done up to now. If you call China, a market of 1.5 billion people an insignificant market it say enough about the validity of your arguments.
Furthermore, a report from the European Commission, is not just an Internet link, it is based on extensive research, much more extensive than your research of asking a buddy. You haven't provided a single piece of evidence to support any of your arguments an have been repeatedly proven wrong. How is china going to help ? Selling shirts TV right ? That would work if Liverpool were the only club doing it. Other clubs are doing it and better than us. The Chinese are interested in success then why would they follow Liverpool ? Showing them film of the clips of the 1970's will only go so far. How do you suppose FSG are going to market Liverpool FC in china such that we massively outsell Manchester United say ? Can you explain that to me ?
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I think you have pretty much hit the nail on the head there Vish mate. The only thing is, I can see Arsenal starting to win trophies soon enough. They have set the foundations and will start reaping the rewards soon in my opinion. As at as te red sox are concerned I do believe they aren't performing great at the moment but remember that they won the world series under FSG after something like 20 years . I think FSG have made a very smart move by investing in some youngsters like Sterling, Assaidi, Ibe etc, I really feel they will turn into great players and I cannot stress enough the role BR has played in their development. I am not his greatest fan but I have to give him credit for that.
When I get home I will post one more graph which is quite interesting, it is a wins to player cost ratio, which has shown constant increase over the years. When do you think Arsenal will win the EPL? Nowhere soon according to me, however, I see Chelsea and City doing it much earlier, therefore, as a fan I would prefer to have such owners. In the last 10 yrs, I am sure that the growth in number of Chelsea fans has been second to probably only Manure, because they have been winning things, whereas our fan base is probably just ageing. I am not going to look for proofs, sorry, if you see something interesting please share. One thing I will give though, it's probably not easy to find a sugar daddy unless you agree to cut your profits and sell at 350m, this is what I would motivate. Also don't understand the role that BR is playing in developing the players you have mentionned, Sterling is practically non existent for the last couple of months, Assaidi has barely been seen playing and Ibe is playing for the younger teams.
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You are spurting blatant lies, several posters have agreed with me. Furthermore I don't see anyone other than you, Faz and GNP arguing your corner. Also, it is something that will increase the revenue o the club, which hasn't been done up to now. If you call China, a market of 1.5 billion people an insignificant market it say enough about the validity of your arguments.
Furthermore, a report from the European Commission, is not just an Internet link, it is based on extensive research, much more extensive than your research of asking a buddy. You haven't provided a single piece of evidence to support any of your arguments an have been repeatedly proven wrong. How is china going to help ? Selling shirts TV right ? That would work if Liverpool were the only club doing it. Other clubs are doing it and better than us. The Chinese are interested in success then why would they follow Liverpool ? Showing them film of the clips of the 1970's will only go so far. How do you suppose FSG are going to market Liverpool FC in china such that we massively outsell Manchester United say ? Can you explain that to me ? Can you seriously not see the advantage of exploiting a previously untapped market by LFC?
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Of course I can but all the other clubs are doing it as well plus other sports.
If you think the whole of china is going to exclusively follow Liverpool then you are crazy.
But should Liverpool try to sell merchandise to china yes of course
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Well if you read my posts, as I said, it's not about overtaking them just yet, it's about closing the gap first. We weren't fully exploiting such markets upto now, now we will be. We have to learn to run before we can fly.
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Well if you read my posts, as I said, it's not about overtaking them just yet, it's about closing the gap first. We weren't fully exploiting such markets upto now, now we will be. We have to learn to run before we can fly. But how will we close the gap in the emerging economies they will follow success so will naturally gravitate to man utd city Chelsea and maybe arsenal why would they follow Liverpool more than these teams which we will have to to fill the gap? That is what I can't understand marko
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