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I can understand why you're vexed, but I can't undersatnd why you expect anything to be done about it. You must know deep down that the only answer to paying less money for tickets is to not buy them at all. Every time you buy a ticket, regardless of the price, it is YOUR CHOICE. How can you be angry about the price of something that you are CHOOSING to buy?

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
This not locals vs OOTers or match going v non match goers , this is to do with FSG ripping the fans off , its the whole fabric if the club and what the club means , ok £52 ETC to watch a concert or things like that , they are one offs not twice it even three times a week , this is an unfair and wrong price hike , and fleecing one section of the stadium is unfair and unjust and every red should back this and back fellow reds on this , this price hike will not do anything for transfers its just ripping off and testing loyalty of reds everywhere .


If any additional revenue is invested in the club for transfers etc, then it is not ripping off, is it? I understand you have been going to games since you were 7, but there are a lot of good things people give up because they cannot afford when they grow older and income drops.

Again, if and only if the club can get more revenue to invest and make us compete at the top again, then an increase in SOME seats is not the end of the world, can't you always buy the seats which are going to cost less?

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Faz, I understand you and think it's sad that you are being priced out but the fact that you have been going regularly for years with your family and that it is a tradition now doesn't change the fact that going to the football march is a luxury. It's not a necessity, it's a luxury...and there will always be those who can and cannot afford it. I can, once in 10 years ;(


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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
I can understand why you're vexed, but I can't undersatnd why you expect anything to be done about it. You must know deep down that the only answer to paying less money for tickets is to not buy them at all. Every time you buy a ticket, regardless of the price, it is YOUR CHOICE. How can you be angry about the price of something that you are CHOOSING to buy?


Not sure I quite agree with that - isn't it the argument the banks used to use for (mis)selling PPI ?

There is an emotional attachment to clubs that owners know they can play on - people will still continue to pay no matter how much they increase the prices.

It's all down to players wages. 70% of our financial outgoings are on players salaries - until this is controlled then ticket prices are just going to keep going up and up to fund their Ferraris. FSG haven't taken a 1p out of the club since they bought (check the last accounts if you don't beleive me) - but how much did Joe f***ing Cole take out the club during his couple of seasons here ??

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Originally Posted By: Marko2709
As i said in my opening post, I agree that ticket prices are too high, but when I mentioned a month ago that many fans don't go because they can't afford it, I was told the following: "the great LFC fans also often can't really afford it, but te sacrifice in other areas to make a plan to go to the games. In other words they prioritize and LFC comes first, even before their families" or something to thy effect.

What I find amazing is that the same people who said those things are now complaining about ticket prices and signing petitions and what not. Why not just prioritize?

I get the feeling that perhaps now you are beginning to understand what I meant when I said some of us just can't afford it. I can't make LFC a priority when I have a 1 year old son to feed and a miserable salary. Does that make me less of a fan? NO, but some on here tried to convince me that it does.

SP I am not referring to you, we had a decent discussion and came to an agreement.

However, Faz my friend, I stated clearly that I have a very low salary and that putting food on the table for my family is a priority, as well as that I saved up for 10 years to be able to go to a match at Anfield, and at the time people weren't even willing to consider what a sacrifice that is. So i don't know where you get this idea that I am rich from and that it means nothing to me.

I am simply amazed at how nonchalant you all were about it and shocked at your lack of understanding until now. Now when you feel it on your own skin, all of a sudden it's a travesty.

Allow me to explain that whilst a season ticket might cost you 850-900£, it costs me about that much to come from Serbia for 1 match!
But then I can told that I am not as big a fan as regular match going fans. Surely you can understand why one would be upset.

As far as fans waiting in line to grab up the tickets, it's true. And whilst some of you might stop going, you will be replaced by others who can afford it. FSG won't bring a price hike in without proper research, they know their market and don't care whether it's Stanley, Faz, myself, Suso, or JonRogue at the game or some Tom, Dick and Harry from the states at the game. All they care about is that the tickets are sold at the highest possible price.


Very good post Marko i am in the same position as you although i dont have to put food on the table for a id as i dont have one but i am not by any means well off or rich and even to come from Ireland which is very close to Liverpool would cost me 3 or 4 hundred euro probably more which i simply do not have at the moment to spend on 1 day at a footie match. Sad but true.

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Lads I do not attend the matches as I live in Ireland but our club would be absolutely nothing without the match-going fans.

Our prices are scandalous compared to the Manc clubs and match-goers are absolutely right to complain.

Also saying you can just stop going is far too simplistic and gives no weight to the importance LFC has had in some people's lives.

Finally lads, we are all sitting here on laptops so using the argument about putting bread on the table is hardly viable. I doubt few on here are struggling to feed their families on a daily basis.


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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Lads I do not attend the matches as I live in Ireland but our club would be absolutely nothing without the match-going fans.

Our prices are scandalous compared to the Manc clubs and match-goers are absolutely right to complain.

Also saying you can just stop going is far too simplistic and gives no weight to the importance LFC has had in some people's lives.

Finally lads, we are all sitting here on laptops so using the argument about putting bread on the table is hardly viable. I doubt few on here are sruggling to feed their families on a daily basis.



But what if there are other fans on the waiting list who can afford to pay more for the seats which are going to cost more? You always have other seats which will either stay the same or cost less albeit the view will not be as good, but, the atmosphere will be the same.

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Lads I do not attend the matches as I live in Ireland but our club would be absolutely nothing without the match-going fans.

Our prices are scandalous compared to the Manc clubs and match-goers are absolutely right to complain.

Also saying you can just stop going is far too simplistic and gives no weight to the importance LFC has had in some people's lives.

Finally lads, we are all sitting here on laptops so using the argument about putting bread on the table is hardly viable. I doubt few on here are sruggling to feed their families on a daily basis.



But what if there are other fans on the waiting list who can afford to pay more for the seats which are going to cost more? You always have other seats which will either stay the same or cost less albeit the view will not be as good, but, the atmosphere will be the same.


Well you cannot guarantee the atmosphere will be the same and at what stage do you stop fleecing loyal match-going fans and maybe reward their loyalty?

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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Lads I do not attend the matches as I live in Ireland but our club would be absolutely nothing without the match-going fans.

Our prices are scandalous compared to the Manc clubs and match-goers are absolutely right to complain.

Also saying you can just stop going is far too simplistic and gives no weight to the importance LFC has had in some people's lives.

Finally lads, we are all sitting here on laptops so using the argument about putting bread on the table is hardly viable. I doubt few on here are sruggling to feed their families on a daily basis.



But what if there are other fans on the waiting list who can afford to pay more for the seats which are going to cost more? You always have other seats which will either stay the same or cost less albeit the view will not be as good, but, the atmosphere will be the same.


Well you cannot guarantee the atmosphere will be the same and at what stage do you stop fleecing loyal match-going fans and maybe reward their loyalty?



Is it fleecing if all the money is invested in the club to allow it to compete at the top level? Don't think so if there are fans who can afford it. We are not talking about all seats are we? Everybody here is making long lists of players we want to buy, why don't people understand that the money will only come from fans one way or the other.

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Lads I do not attend the matches as I live in Ireland but our club would be absolutely nothing without the match-going fans.

Our prices are scandalous compared to the Manc clubs and match-goers are absolutely right to complain.

Also saying you can just stop going is far too simplistic and gives no weight to the importance LFC has had in some people's lives.

Finally lads, we are all sitting here on laptops so using the argument about putting bread on the table is hardly viable. I doubt few on here are struggling to feed their families on a daily basis.



Business decisions must be made without emotion though. Of course the club means a lot to people, but LFC is run as a business with the aim of being self-sufficient.
One minute the fans are moaning about the lack of quality signings and squad trimming, the next they are complaining about price increases. In order for the club to become self-sufficient we need to do the following:

Reduce transfer fees
Reduce agent fees
Reduce salaries
Decrease squad size
Increase ticket prices
Increase ground capacity

For the club to get back to the top we need manage the balance sheet. If the club reduces ticket prices it will mean less money to spend of the team. And then people will moaning that we aren't good enough.

Whilst I do agree that the ticket prices are way too high already, I see the increase as a necessity for FSG to get the club back to where the fans want it to be. Whether you want to be a part of it or not, is your CHOICE.

And look on the bright side, by paying more for your tickets you are becoming a better fan and a bigger financial contributor to the cuase....

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