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i totaly disagree with your opinion that all fans are the same, they are not as some are more dedicated than others, I disagree with your opinion so am I not allowed to do that or something. There is no way a person in Thailand or wherever who has never attended a game is the same fan as me, faz or Stanley who just might buy a Liverpool scarf one year is the same as fans who have dedicated, blood, sweat and tears for over 30 years, and that's my opinion, a forum is all about agreeing and disagreeing with people's opinions... Yes some are more dedicated but just because someone is a season ticket holder doesn't make them more dedicated. Some people aren't that fortunate and never will be. I can't get to Anfield these days because I live overseas and because I need to be on the site on match days. I pay thousands into the club every year. You're telling me that you care more about the club than me because for 90 minutes you're in attendance? LOL GTFO. Many of these overseas fans get up at all hours and have their own rituals. Your comments about them will be quite hurtful to them so I would ask you to refrain from bringing up such topics here. You are of course free to voice these opinions on other forums. your just not consistent tho are you dunk, you have blatenly allowed people to question my loyalty and comitment and said nothing, them you pick up on me explaining to them and using examples. I have never questioned your support all I have said is some are more dedicated than others and this in my opinion makes them better supporters than both you and me. I think you really need to be fair mate, I was called a liar and ganged up upon and just because I never reported anything you have said nothing, you decided to step in today at the wrong time, don't understand your logic, just asking for fairness...
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You should be glad I'm not consistent because you're still here and people have been pleading for your removal for some time.
I haven't allowed anyone to do anything as I haven't seen the posts. However, my comments apply to everyone i.e. never make anyone justify their support. Anyone who does that is a tool and has an agenda. Nobody gets a badge for being a super fan. It's like something you'd hear in a school playground.
Yes some are more dedicated but this applies to season tickets holders also. My boy Smoove lives in New York. He's never been to Anfield in his life but he's not as worthy as you or I because we have season tickets? I'd like to see you say that to his face.
It's a stupid viewpoint and one that a bunch of 12-year-old should be arguing over. It's not welcome here.
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i totaly disagree with your opinion that all fans are the same, they are not as some are more dedicated than others, I disagree with your opinion so am I not allowed to do that or something. There is no way a person in Thailand or wherever who has never attended a game is the same fan as me, faz or Stanley who just might buy a Liverpool scarf one year is the same as fans who have dedicated, blood, sweat and tears for over 30 years, and that's my opinion, a forum is all about agreeing and disagreeing with people's opinions... Yes some are more dedicated but just because someone is a season ticket holder doesn't make them more dedicated. Some people aren't that fortunate and never will be. I can't get to Anfield these days because I live overseas and because I need to be on the site on match days. I pay thousands into the club every year. You're telling me that you care more about the club than me because for 90 minutes you're in attendance? LOL GTFO. Many of these overseas fans get up at all hours and have their own rituals. Your comments about them will be quite hurtful to them so I would ask you to refrain from bringing up such topics here. You are of course free to voice these opinions on other forums. your just not consistent tho are you dunk, you have blatenly allowed people to question my loyalty and comitment and said nothing, them you pick up on me explaining to them and using examples. I have never questioned your support all I have said is some are more dedicated than others and this in my opinion makes them better supporters than both you and me. I think you really need to be fair mate, I was called a liar and ganged up upon and just because I never reported anything you have said nothing, you decided to step in today at the wrong time, don't understand your logic, just asking for fairness... He already said to you "You've had plenty of 'fairness'. In fact I have repeatedly asked for OOT topics to be left yet you have ignored those requests. This doesn't put you in a position to tell anyone what to do."
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You should be glad I'm not consistent because you're still here and people have been pleading for your removal for some time.
I haven't allowed anyone to do anything as I haven't seen the posts. However, my comments apply to everyone i.e. never make anyone justify their support. Anyone who does that is a tool and has an agenda. Nobody gets a badge for being a super fan. It's like something you'd hear in a school playground.
Yes some are more dedicated but this applies to season tickets holders also. My boy Smoove lives in New York. He's never been to Anfield in his life but he's not as worthy as you or I because we have season tickets? I'd like to see you say that to his face.
It's a stupid viewpoint and one that a bunch of 12-year-old should be arguing over. It's not welcome here. no probs we can agree to disagree and I will leave it there, you say you watch the posts and treat everyone fairly and the same, that's good enough for me then...
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I guess the way I see it is this. I am not a scouser but I have followed Liverpool all my life since about 6 years of age and I am 55. It does not matter where you are from I spend a lot of time in Liverpool on non football matters and I can tell you not all acousers are mad keen football fans many have no interest in it whatsoever and yet someone from say Kent can be a fanatic not only paying the high prices but travelling thousands of miles a year. Who is to say they are less of a fan than someone who resides in Liverpool ? total nonsense. And what is Liverpool ? we are told only the Liverpool city council Bootle (scouse as they come) we are told is sefton. Where Stephen Gerrard comes from is in Knowsley to some these are not Liverpool. Madness. But where I would agree with cool and perhaps disagree with dunk is the money side of things. I would never say one fan is better than another because that is silly. In fact none of us are fans anymore we are CUSTOMERS. The club is a commercial business and clearly if we did not pay into that business the business would cease to exist. You can scream all you like at the TV wearing your counterfeit top but if every Liverpool follower was like that the club would cease to exist overnight. That is self evident. For myself I resent paying the amount I do and when I hang up my season ticket I will not be any less of a fan anymore than I am less of a customer of marks and spenser if I shop there less. But what I will be is not experiencing football such as I have done for most of my life I am sorry if it upsets some but watching on the TV or a computer screen is not the same. But we all adapt to our circumstances and no one has a right to watch LFC either you can afford it or you cant. I can't and last year paid for my ticket out of my savings for my pension and I cannot do that for much longer.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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The alledged out of town stuff is very much matched with the clear anti Liverpool/merseyside stuff which is just as regular and in my opinion much worse , no harm in debate no harm in banter it'd all good even if you agree or disagree , and this all come from the fact is liverpool were booed off at half time in istanbul that's fact and and things were said but its true .
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Where is there any anti-Liverpool stuff? Are you just making this up now?
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Where is there any anti-Liverpool stuff? Are you just making this up now? no mate there has been loads of it plenty directed at me personally , now I disagree with both but things get said and some posters gang up on certain posters and I don't agree with that either ,koptalkers all have opinion some more stronger than others but its all opinion.
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But what has been said about people from Liverpool or the city of Liverpool that puts it in a negative light?
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But we all adapt to our circumstances and no one has a right to watch LFC either you can afford it or you cant. I can't and last year paid for my ticket out of my savings for my pension and I cannot do that for much longer. Ask Dunk to make you a mod on here the extra money will pay for the ticket 
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