KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Five billion waterfront project approved today

I am not saying we build a 25k seater stadium I am saying if we carry on like this we will be getting attendances of 25 to 30k in a year or two. The business model is flawed and based on there being a never ending supply of fans who will pay top rate to watch a club who was last successfull 20 plus years ago apart from 2005.

In that case the ticket prices come down until the attendance picks back up again.

Stanley the business model is to increase corporate day turnover not the £45 steady punter. an extra 20,000 seats of which 7500 are allocated for corporate will cost 160mil. yet will have the same matchday turnover as the the current 45,000 punters. This is economic sense for once.
FSG knew very early on that LFC fans cannot pay through increased prices for NEW a 60,000 seater stadium (450mil). we currently have one of the poorest corporate stadia facilities in the prem and first and foremost this needs to be addressed. why charge xurrent fans an extra £10 a ticket when you can get £200 a ticket.

we shouldn't feel bitter about it as the club needs the normal fan to supply the atmosphere, that will not come from the boxes.

We could increase the capacity without expanding the ground or moving, by going back to good old fashioned terracing but with modern safety precautions. The recent hillsborough findings exonerated fans from blame so surely there is no reason to stick with all seater grounds? Imagine, an enormous Kop in full song....

Cp1972 I agree and that's why we need a new stadium not redevelop anfield which will always be restricted both for ordinary and corporate customers. I think at the moment man utd have about 139 corporate boxes to Liverpools 30.

Careex I agree but we can never go back to all stading kop not ever. But we could do something like Germany limited stading areas. But for obvious reasons that will meet with a lot of resistance at Liverpool.

Am delighted for Liverpool city, it took a while, so hope they get on with it now.
Why any owners would opt for a 60,000 seat stadium when our main competitors have 75,000 seats is beyond me. How often does a club build a new stadium? Once in a lifetime? Why should we see ourselves as permanently behind our competitors in terms of capacity, therefore income, therefore competitiveness?
It's nothing short of a lack of ambition, clearly FSG don't see us competing with the top clubs, or else they'd compete across all fronts; Stadia, transfer market, merchandising and sponsorship. It's interesting to note they are competing on the income front with merchandising and sponsorship but not really interested in the two areas that require investment; stadia and top level players.

Spot on annefield FSG are permanently putting us in the shadow of our rivals.

They have done far more damage than Gillett and hicks ever did.

Agreed. Why make a once in a lifetime ground expansion that will put us 10 years behind our rivals, at best??

These guys have one bet and it is FFP, they are not Abramovich or the Sheiks and have said that their business model is different. Don't think that with this model we will be able to repeat Chelsea's or City's acheivements, the best that can happen is like Arsenal, ie, no trophies but qualify for champions league (for Arsenal this model will change as soon as they pay off the stadium, ie, soon). If we are not happy with that we can only motivate a City like takeover or maybe FFP will change the industry, who knows?

It was only last year that Ayre & Werner told the fans not to worry, as "financially we can compete with anyone". Obviously, what they meant was that the same parameters apply to everyone within the FFP guidelines. Deviously mid-leading.