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Its not fuss just an opinion on an open forum.

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The way things have gone (can't string it together) we are right for a defeat against Wigan.

They're coming off a decent result, we have a real solid team on paper with a lot of guys playing well. No F*cking excuses Faz, this is needed to stay around the top 6/push on and if we are so say improving then the next step is some consistency.

He's bought players, most have had long enough to gel, get used to the system and click. If this guys good enough it's time the back to back wins started to come.

6th place finish because of leeway early season. Any less can't be excused.


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i feel i have to comment on your post everybody new when br took over we were going to be in a transition period ie implementing his ideas, players backroom staff etc how long would you expect this to be 25 to 30 league games and then we should be pushing for top 4 WOW after last seasons awful football and results did we really think a new manager would wave a magic wand and push us up there the very next season even im not that optomistic i realise it is so frustrating when weve had games by the scruff of the neck then let it slip away surely though you can see the football were playing is a lot better than last season the guys got to be given another season and he will be i for 1 am prepared to give him time.

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Originally Posted By: Top4
The way things have gone (can't string it together) we are right for a defeat against Wigan.

They're coming off a decent result, we have a real solid team on paper with a lot of guys playing well. No F*cking excuses Faz, this is needed to stay around the top 6/push on and if we are so say improving then the next step is some consistency.

He's bought players, most have had long enough to gel, get used to the system and click. If this guys good enough it's time the back to back wins started to come.

6th place finish because of leeway early season. Any less can't be excused.



Totally agree with you. BR said it himself, he would need 10 games to get his ideas through so all this crap about 2 seasons doesn't make sense at all (why doesn't Laudrup need 2 seasons) + he has spent more than 55m, we are out of all cups, so no distractions and has only the league to focus on. For me personally, last season was better than this season (at least so far) and we are about to not qualify for even the Europa league. He has the next games to really show his worth.

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Originally Posted By: REDROLO67
i feel i have to comment on your post everybody new when br took over we were going to be in a transition period ie implementing his ideas, players backroom staff etc how long would you expect this to be 25 to 30 league games and then we should be pushing for top 4 WOW after last seasons awful football and results did we really think a new manager would wave a magic wand and push us up there the very next season even im not that optomistic i realise it is so frustrating when weve had games by the scruff of the neck then let it slip away surely though you can see the football were playing is a lot better than last season the guys got to be given another season and he will be i for 1 am prepared to give him time.


Who says I am expecting 4th?? I've said all along that 6th should not only be our aim but is also likely to be as good as we can expect for now.

Other managers arrive at new clubs and make instant improvements - you don't see Swansea fans asking for 2 years for Laudrup to settle in to a new country and develop his footballing ideas. No - he arrived, improved on the previous manager despite losing a key player, made astute signings, and won a cup in his first season.
You'll probably argue that he isn't making wholesale tactical or personnel changes. Well neither is BR.....he has introduced a MINOR tactical tweak that the players should adjust to within a few weeks (Carragher's words, not mine).
Most of his first team were already here and the previous manager did a pretty poor job. People can make all the excuses they like for BR but the reality is that he's come into a cushy job, not much pressure (FSG have already said that CL isn't the aim this year), been given decent money to spend but still isn't doing very well.
Anyone who needs 2 years to get the team sorted isn't a very good manager at all.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: REDROLO67
i feel i have to comment on your post everybody new when br took over we were going to be in a transition period ie implementing his ideas, players backroom staff etc how long would you expect this to be 25 to 30 league games and then we should be pushing for top 4 WOW after last seasons awful football and results did we really think a new manager would wave a magic wand and push us up there the very next season even im not that optomistic i realise it is so frustrating when weve had games by the scruff of the neck then let it slip away surely though you can see the football were playing is a lot better than last season the guys got to be given another season and he will be i for 1 am prepared to give him time.


Who says I am expecting 4th?? I've said all along that 6th should not only be our aim but is also likely to be as good as we can expect for now.

Other managers arrive at new clubs and make instant improvements - you don't see Swansea fans asking for 2 years for Laudrup to settle in to a new country and develop his footballing ideas. No - he arrived, improved on the previous manager despite losing a key player, made astute signings, and won a cup in his first season.
You'll probably argue that he isn't making wholesale tactical or personnel changes. Well neither is BR.....he has introduced a MINOR tactical tweak that the players should adjust to within a few weeks (Carragher's words, not mine).
Most of his first team were already here and the previous manager did a pretty poor job. People can make all the excuses they like for BR but the reality is that he's come into a cushy job, not much pressure (FSG have already said that CL isn't the aim this year), been given decent money to spend but still isn't doing very well.
Anyone who needs 2 years to get the team sorted isn't a very good manager at all.


Who is asking for 2 years can I ask?

I also don't know where you get the idea that it is only a minor tweak? I know you don't really like BR but the formation and general play of the team is completely different. Where has Carra said that its only minor tweaks?

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Didn't Fergie take 5 years, but yeah suppose he's not good enough at all. I agree and disagree at the same time with Carheex, he has a good point in what he's saying but he's not backing it up with great points at al

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: REDROLO67
i feel i have to comment on your post everybody new when br took over we were going to be in a transition period ie implementing his ideas, players backroom staff etc how long would you expect this to be 25 to 30 league games and then we should be pushing for top 4 WOW after last seasons awful football and results did we really think a new manager would wave a magic wand and push us up there the very next season even im not that optomistic i realise it is so frustrating when weve had games by the scruff of the neck then let it slip away surely though you can see the football were playing is a lot better than last season the guys got to be given another season and he will be i for 1 am prepared to give him time.


Who says I am expecting 4th?? I've said all along that 6th should not only be our aim but is also likely to be as good as we can expect for now.

Other managers arrive at new clubs and make instant improvements - you don't see Swansea fans asking for 2 years for Laudrup to settle in to a new country and develop his footballing ideas. No - he arrived, improved on the previous manager despite losing a key player, made astute signings, and won a cup in his first season.
You'll probably argue that he isn't making wholesale tactical or personnel changes. Well neither is BR.....he has introduced a MINOR tactical tweak that the players should adjust to within a few weeks (Carragher's words, not mine).
Most of his first team were already here and the previous manager did a pretty poor job. People can make all the excuses they like for BR but the reality is that he's come into a cushy job, not much pressure (FSG have already said that CL isn't the aim this year), been given decent money to spend but still isn't doing very well.
Anyone who needs 2 years to get the team sorted isn't a very good manager at all.


Who is asking for 2 years can I ask?

I also don't know where you get the idea that it is only a minor tweak? I know you don't really like BR but the formation and general play of the team is completely different. Where has Carra said that its only minor tweaks?


Amongst several other posters, the person I was responding to.

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Didn't Fergie take 5 years, but yeah suppose he's not good enough at all. I agree and disagree at the same time with Carheex, he has a good point in what he's saying but he's not backing it up with great points at al


So you think that keeping someone for 5 years will turn them into the the greatest manager that the game has ever seen? We should have kept Hodgson then...

Ferguson is the exception, not the rule.

Maybe we shoud have kept carroll for 5 years just to give him a chance to surpass Messi's goals scoring achievements?

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but 2 years to settle in as you are making out? I don't think anyone is asking for that

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