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Want 3d getting behind the manager and players. The only place that has an impact is anfield. The biggest getting behind them comes when you part with your £50. Then you have opportunity to cheer the boys on and by your roaring encourage effort. This is an online forum where opinions are given not dissimilar to discussing with your mates down the pub. I agree online campaigns can make a difference in specific circumstances but generally what we say on here has no impact on the progress of the club or the performances of the team.

i don't think as fans we should accept recent results or being knocked out of all the cups by any means. i just feel we need to acknowledge that the manager has had a tough start to his campaign and cut him some slack instead of completely dismissing him after just 7 months in charge. i feel the fans played a huge part in the sacking of hodgson (low anfield attendances and constant ridiculing on phone in shows on LFC TV) i really hope a similar thing doesn't happen with rodgers because theres progression there to be seen imo. as a manager he has the ability to make it to the top. since jan he's added some good players and we play some great football. its far too soon to write him off completely because we're in transition. i just wish people would see beyond the current moment in time. personally i feel the opposite to what a lot of people are saying, i'm encouraged and excited of the potential of rodgers and this young team. any LFC manager should warrant much more respect from the supporters imo

I think only a small minority have dismissed him completely after 7 months in charge. That's not to say they're inkling is wrong, many others who haven't dismissed him yet are probably sick of the chopping and changing.

'as a manager he has the ability to make it to the top'. I have to point out that's just an opinion - not fact.

'Since Jan he has added some good players'. Well, just one - Sturridge and he's been on our radar for a while. Coutinho is only a prospect.

'we play some great football'. Arsenal have been playing great football for years under Wenger but have won nothing for the last 9.

The level of respect you're suggesting has to be earned over time. I agree it's too early to write him off completely but he's walking a tight rope in my opinion. I haven't seen anything outstanding in terms of psychology, motivation, tactics etc. so far.

I'll give you a few examples from last where he missed a trick:

- he said that he was here for the 2005 CL Semi against Chelsea and believes that the Garcia goal didn't cross the line. If he was clever he would've said something like... 'well, I didn't think it was a goal at the time but I now realise the truth'... i.e. tongue in cheek maybe but it has an effect.

- he used the above mentioned example to suggest that it was the fans reaction that night that led to the referees decision and then went on to plea for similar support on Thursday night for a similar effect. Well, such an overt request for pressure on the ref is embarassing in itself, but surely to make it open in advance is only going to make the ref think 'I'll be careful not to fall for that'. Could it have prevented the ref from giving a pen for hand ball?

- then of course there was the double sub at the point of going 3-1.

Not completely given up just yet, but far from convinced. His credentials are based on perceived potential as opposed to proven quality at this level.

Smallest minority always have the loudest gob

good point. it's upto the decision makers to keep calm and make informed decisions not panic at the first sign of trouble or simply in response those who shout the loudest.

The worrying thing is, where do FSG get their advice from? So many cock ups in such a short space of time. I heard Comolli defend the Carroll fee the other day. It was shocking on 3 counts:

i) that he proposed it
ii) FSG bought it
iii) he's still claiming it made sense