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Originally Posted By: Scainer
Did we really pay 4-5 million to loan a player for a year and then also pay wages on top?
Or was that the press trying to justify Arsenal not getting him, and really it was just his wage cost?


What would they have to gain by doing that???
Are you one of the crazy the conspiracy theorists that think the whole media, (for no apparant reason), is anti-LFC?

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Originally Posted By: Scainer
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: Scainer
where has 60 million been spent?


On players. You can deduct player sales if it makes you feel better, but it won't change how much has been 'spent'


Fabio Borini 11.0
Joe Allen 15.0
Oussama Assaidi 2.3
Samed Yesil 1.0
Daniel Sturridge 12.0
Philippe Coutinho 8.5

49.8 million based upon reported figures. Am I missing someone?


please also bare in mind that Sturrdige and Coutinho were only bought in January. one has only 1 appearance and 5min sub.This accounts for 20.5 of that budget.
the fact is 60points plus is expected progress, I feel we have 7wins out of the 11 left. It would be fanatastic to achieve 65+ - that would be excellent progress

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Originally Posted By: cp1972
Originally Posted By: Scainer
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: Scainer
where has 60 million been spent?


On players. You can deduct player sales if it makes you feel better, but it won't change how much has been 'spent'


Fabio Borini 11.0
Joe Allen 15.0
Oussama Assaidi 2.3
Samed Yesil 1.0
Daniel Sturridge 12.0
Philippe Coutinho 8.5

49.8 million based upon reported figures. Am I missing someone?


please also bare in mind that Sturrdige and Coutinho were only bought in January. one has only 1 appearance and 5min sub.This accounts for 20.5 of that budget.
the fact is 60points plus is expected progress, I feel we have 7wins out of the 11 left. It would be fanatastic to achieve 65+ - that would be excellent progress


Definitely, let's hope.

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carheex- in regards the Media they do tend to get alot wrong when talking about LFC, the Suarez kissing hand at Mansfield was reported incorrectly in the majority of the newspapers, who called it distasteful - even though he does it after every goal.

the mail in particular often reports fictional stories. Echo even reported that Hicks/Gillete regularly used the London press to discredit Rafa in the past, an opportunity which they took on wholeheartedly.

i only really trust the echo, as they have the most to lose. The Indepenadnt can alos offer balanced views on LFC

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Bit shocked stan by thus rant ok FSG maybe , bit stan as a match going STH you have been getting value for money and even last night ok just didn't do it but Liverpool give it a big go worked hard to get the four goals , sorry stan FSG OK but the team sorry I don't get it .


The team gave it a go (for a spell) but the general situation is decline and more decline. We went out of the carling in a damp squib we are ticking over in the league we played poorly overall against zenit and don't get me started on the fa cup. I am sorry faz I don't see what there is to get optimistic about.
but is the decline just this season ??? or as i think its been in decline for near on 4 years now and as a team who wins leagues even longer , i will give rodgers a very decent chance , but i see an agenda(benitez) with some and some who think we still have a god given right to be in the champions league , as i have said many times if rodgers is sacked he is sacked .

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I'm not into this anti-lfc media conspiracy I'm afraid as there's no motive. AFter the mansfield issue there was far more support for suarez than there was criticism in the media.
As for the hicks/gillet/rafa/london media claim - sounds like a load of old paranoid twaddle to me. Got any evidence?

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Are you one of the crazy the conspiracy theorists that think the whole media, (for no apparant reason), is anti-LFC?


More a north south thing actually, and lazy media creating news.

Logically look at it....
Arsenal have shown the type of style of play that would appeal. They are in the champions league.

He chose Liverpool as they where willing to pay X million.
Easy story.

All I'm saying is that it might or might not be true, but I really don't think anyone would pay 5 million just to loan a player and still cover their wages. That is unless they included a purchase clause, meaning the down payment is part of the full transfer the following summer.



Anyway...... Are these correct? (e&oe)

2011-12 1st half 34 points
2011-12 2nd half 18 points
2012-13 1st half 25 points
2012-13 2nd half 14 points (with 11 games to go)

Is the second half gets 30 points that would be 55 points (as i mentioned in an earlier post) and that would for me show a positive trend. 25 points would be standing still.

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Originally Posted By: Scainer
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Are you one of the crazy the conspiracy theorists that think the whole media, (for no apparant reason), is anti-LFC?


More a north south thing actually, and lazy media creating news.

Logically look at it....
Arsenal have shown the type of style of play that would appeal. They are in the champions league.

He chose Liverpool as they where willing to pay X million.
Easy story.

All I'm saying is that it might or might not be true, but I really don't think anyone would pay 5 million just to loan a player and still cover their wages. That is unless they included a purchase clause, meaning the down payment is part of the full transfer the following summer.



Anyway...... Are these correct? (e&oe)

2011-12 1st half 34 points
2011-12 2nd half 18 points
2012-13 1st half 25 points
2012-13 2nd half 14 points (with 11 games to go)

Is the second half gets 30 points that would be 55 points (as i mentioned in an earlier post) and that would for me show a positive trend. 25 points would be standing still.


You'd be surprised what LFC will pay when it comes to transfers! I'm ruling nothing out.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
My interest in Liverpool FC is waning it really is.

I am sick of being fleeced financially for a poor product not just the team but poor facilities at the stadium. You go to other teams grounds and they are light years ahead of us. £50 to watch that rubbish ? Sorry FSG and Ian Ayre but you are taking the [oops] and have been for too long now.

I am sick of FSG talking a good game (every 6 months or so) then doing nothing.

I am starting to get sick of Rodgers as well like FSG he talks a good game almost like he has come back from a two week PR course but the delivery is not there.

Two many times this season we have simply folded or made basic errors. It's not acceptable.

And I am sick of pragmatic fans who it seems are willing to accept this situation.

Does this make me a bad fan? Maybe ! Do I care ?

No !


Know exactly how you feel Stan,After hicks,gillete and purslow stabbed Benitez in the back it left a bad taste that has not gone away.Have not been to a game since Feb 2010 and have no intention of going back until the current owners/manager are gone,just a passing interest at the minute.

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Originally Posted By: kane3
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
My interest in Liverpool FC is waning it really is.

I am sick of being fleeced financially for a poor product not just the team but poor facilities at the stadium. You go to other teams grounds and they are light years ahead of us. £50 to watch that rubbish ? Sorry FSG and Ian Ayre but you are taking the [oops] and have been for too long now.

I am sick of FSG talking a good game (every 6 months or so) then doing nothing.

I am starting to get sick of Rodgers as well like FSG he talks a good game almost like he has come back from a two week PR course but the delivery is not there.

Two many times this season we have simply folded or made basic errors. It's not acceptable.

And I am sick of pragmatic fans who it seems are willing to accept this situation.

Does this make me a bad fan? Maybe ! Do I care ?

No !


Know exactly how you feel Stan,After hicks,gillete and purslow stabbed Benitez in the back it left a bad taste that has not gone away.Have not been to a game since Feb 2010 and have no intention of going back until the current owners/manager are gone,just a passing interest at the minute.


Exactly what should be done for the owners to understand that soon their investment would be worth [oops] all. I am not buying shirts anymore.

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