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Am i ecstatic? no I'm not. I would have preferred to be higher up.

Our we below my expectations? No. I had a hope of a 4th place finish but they were only small and I can see an improvement throughout the season and I can see us challenging next season

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There is no fourth place next season just like fourth was never on this season, people are basins it purely and simply on past reputation which is laughable, Swansea, west Brom and Everton are more likely than us at least next season yet there fans don't bang on about it like ours do expecting a challenge

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keep on fishing for a reaction joe, you're on thin ice as it is...

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
keep on fishing for a reaction joe, you're on thin ice as it is...


Why say that maxi ? I know he does fish for reactions sometimes but that was not an unreasonable assertion fourth place does look unlikely next season given our trajectory.


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the constant placing of ourselves in with West Brom and Swansea and other teams that we have much vaster resources then is what he is fishing for.

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
the constant placing of ourselves in with West Brom and Swansea and other teams that we have much vaster resources then is what he is fishing for.


And that's the problem. We DO have far greater resources than the other clubs around us yet for some reason (poor management springs to mind), they ARE undoubtedly our nearest rivals. There's no point in discussing finishing ahead of spurs & arsenal, or discussing how we'd fare in next seasons champions league if we're constantly looking over our shoulder at stoke, west brom & swansea. Let's walk before we can run.

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you say that and yet on another thread you are saying that "non thinking fans" will settle for 10th? Which is it then?
We will finish higher this season than we did last year so I don't get your constant lines about sliding downhill. We slid downhill from Rafas last season in charge, went further under Hodgson, briefly came back in kenny's first 6 months and then fell further again. It looks like BR is going to finish higher than last year but you are still not happy

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Am i ecstatic? no I'm not. I would have preferred to be higher up.

Our we below my expectations? No. I had a hope of a 4th place finish but they were only small and I can see an improvement throughout the season and I can see us challenging next season


What about your target of getting 10 pts for 5 games? I noticed that you had dropped that to 9 recently. This is not how you appraise anybody, you should stick to your target.

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I set a specific target for those 5 games based on who we were playing. I never set a target of 10 points for every game?

Can you stop trying to make things up about what I say.

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
you say that and yet on another thread you are saying that "non thinking fans" will settle for 10th? Which is it then?
We will finish higher this season than we did last year so I don't get your constant lines about sliding downhill. We slid downhill from Rafas last season in charge, went further under Hodgson, briefly came back in kenny's first 6 months and then fell further again. It looks like BR is going to finish higher than last year but you are still not happy


I've not contradicted anything. I believe the following:

4th is well beyond us
5th is very unlikely
6th should be possible and must be the short term minimum target
7th wouldn't impress me (standing still after spending £60m?!)
8th or lower would be embarassing

You talk about us finishing higher than last year as if it has already happened. It hasn't. We 'are' capable of getting a good number of points from the remaining games but we're also just as likely to capitulate. Under BR, I haven't looked at one game and been confident of a victory. We've got 11 games left, and most of them are against small-medium clubs. It's come to something when very few people have the confidence that we'll pick up more than 15 or 16 points against weak opposition.

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