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Considering that we amassed 13 points over our final 11 games last season, I would be very surprised if we did as bad in the final run in especially considering who we are playing. That pretty much is where I get my confidence from.

Where did you come up with the 55mil figure by the way? It was 48 gross and 40 mil net, not accounting for the players we released.

Scoring significantly more goals than last season would also give me confidence going forward.

I always set a target of judging the 2 halfs of the season side by side to show progression. At the half way point of the season we had 25 points. We currently after 8 games have 14 points in the second half. Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton are on 11 and 8 points respectively after 7 games.

chin up Stan, you mention alot of valid points and hard to not to agree. However optimisim is a fans perogative and we have to try and look to the future.

Alot what we see now is a football problem. Only Germany is showing any genuine growth in fanbases and general public interest. There league had the foresight to sow sound financial foundations and forced clubs to obey them. Fans on here constantly complain about money but the fact is LFC fans like all others follow the crowd like sheep in a field. We all want money when in fact a good team is the real target.
wasted millions on managers, loan interest and sill players contracts has cost LFC best part of 300million in the last 5yrs. this is lost and will never return.
FSG for all their faults have steadied the ship in terms of spending and wage management. Do they have the balls though to back the project to its end? this I am not so sure.
3 more players in the quality of Sturridge and Coutinho could see Liverpool break back into the pack. equally the loss of Suarez could compound the demise as many see it.

honestly? I feel we are doing ok but lack the guidance required to really fulfill our potential

So for you a season boils down to the league only. I suppose you don't give a damn about Cup runs then. I wonder why the cup competitions exist.

Personally, the only cups that mattee to me are the european competitions. The poxy domestic ones bore me.

Thanks for your post cp1972 re liverpool FC it's not generally healthy is it?

The pricing policy seems to be we can get away with it and so we will. But no thought to the long terms. As.for Liverpool team we are so vulnerable to Suarez leaving its not true. It's not clear what FSG are doing to move the club forward we need substantial investment in the team although we have had some revival with downing Enrique and Henderson largely that huge investment was wasted. But FSG have to take that gamble again but I fear.they won't.

are you going to keep banging the same drum vish, it gets boring after a while.

Progression cant be judged on cup runs because they are not consistent and we will not win them every year. Winning the League Cup is also not comparable to winning the Champions League for example as the bigger teams don't take it 100% seriously. It was great to win it but not winning it the next season is not a sign of regression.

you can accurately judge progression through the league because you are playing the same teams, bar relegation and promotion teams, every year.

What about ronny radfords goal then ?

The thing is, revenue for better players is not generated only by ticket sales. When the team performs well and plays in the CL our income rises greatly. Now, in my opinion, if we look at thinks realistically we can come to the following conclusions:

1. Do we have a title winning squad? NO
2. Do we have a squad capable of qualifying for the CL? YES
3. Would a more experienced manager have guaranteed CL qualification? NO
4. Would a more experienced manager have had a much higher chance of qualifying for CL? YES
5. Was a much more experienced manager available prior to Rodgers appointment? YES
6. Would our income be greater if we were in the CL? YES
7. Has our poor league form impacted our ability to attract great players? YES
8. Would we be able to attract better players if we were in the CL? YES.

This all points to the fact that the owners aren't that interested in signing top notch players and are happy with the lowered wage bill, which in terms points to a lack of ambition to win all possible trophies. Which leads me to conclude that BR was signed because he is inexperienced and would be a yes man without standing up to the owners too much. I believe he is a yes man, a marionette and nothing else.

Last but not least: if CL means attracting better players who can achieve more, why are we not going all out to get into the CL, including hiring a proven manager? Because FSG don't want better players who demand higher wages, they want a PR officer who will say what he is told to say!

Rodgers commenting on our away performance as fantastic was like Dellboy singing the praises of some knock-offs he was trying to move on.

Totally agree. Last night was a valiant effort. Great game against a very good Zenit side.