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I agree sky would not want club ppv but sky are in trouble. Also sooner or later club ppv will come. I think they have had it in America for some time..

I think your getting it wrong, the modern fanbase is a very fickle one, you need to give them success or they move on to another Club who will give them it, supply and demand. I will ask you this, Liverpool has fans from all over the world, how did you think they got them in the first place, success, nothing more nothing less, they won things which meant they went on the telly, which exposed them to people from Ireland, Scandanavia, the Far East and everywhere, if they never had success do you honestly think people in all those countries would of chose them as there club to support because lets face it hardly any of them have any ties to the City or the place, Manchester United are the same as us in having so many fickle fans, if they went to mid table like us for the next 7 or 8 seasons do you honestly think they would be filling 76k every home game, not in a million years...

Cool flames you may be right to an extent but how come our global fanbase is huge even though we have had little success for 7 seven years or rather no success.

You would expect it t be dropping like a stone

Because as usual he's full of sh!t Stan, same old negativity. Does have a point but he's blindsided by the fact he's actually only about 10% correct, or 90% incorrect.

Stanley thats an easy one mate, the two reasons which fickle global fans support Clubs are number one success and number two fame, although we no longer win things we have still managed to hold onto our famous name for a little bit longer, its slowly ebbing away but thats the reason we still manage to have fans. I think if you look at other Clubs as us who are no longer as big or dont have the same success you have to include Ajax and Benfica, these have a massive famous name from the past too...

tone it down Horgo, there is no need to talk to me like that, I dont talk to you like that, disagree with my point of view by all means but just be careful as you got banned last time and we dont want that happening again...

I partly agree with you cool a lot of fans follow Celtic because of the historic name nd as you say Ajax and benfica.

I also agree sooner or later we will have to start winning things again otherwise we will slide into obscurity

Yes it certainly has benefited us in the past stanley, the only thing we have to be careful about is that you reach a stage where your fanbase has only heard about your name from fathers or older fans and they have never seen success themselves, thats when the name thing wears off. If you look at our point of view and this is quite worrying anybody under the age of 30 has never seen Liverpool win the League they have only ever heard we used to be this successfuly team and never ever seen it. Your right about Celtic though stanley they have a worldwide fanbase to rival ours yet they have only ever won one European Cup, thats why I will always maintain there is a big difference from being a big Club and a famous Club...