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Liverpool are a far bigger club tn Everton bad with better resources and I think a better squad even now. Everton are over achieving. I take your point chesea and arsenal have better resources but in Chelsea's case it's only because of the Russian billionaire. Both arsenal and spurs are catchable next season spurs will lose bale and arsenal are no great shakes these days. Not only is 4th definitely on next season but I will be gutted if we don't get it. And we stand an outside chance ths season. All this is assuming FSG spend big in the summer if not then I agree with you cool flames, stanley you keep going on about bigger Clubs and resources and it does'nt mean nothing mate, Leeds United are bigger than Fulham and Stoke, Sheff Wed are miles bigger than Wigan Athletic. You say Everton are over achieving well I disagree Everton have got a team and squad that has gradualy got stronger over the last 3 seasons, while if you look at our team and squad we have got worse with Alonso, Mascherano and Torres all gone and older Gerrard and Carragher coming towards the end, you say Spurs will lose Bale yet I will have you a wager now that Suarez will Leave Liverpool before Bale leaves Spurs and as for Arsenal you say they are no great shakes yet you know perfectly well there new stadium is nearly or all but paid for now so they will go from strenghth to strenghth with there added financial benefits from that. I dont like to be a downer on your points of view but come on mate, we need to look at the big picture and the real world, we have very inexperienced owners and manager, not much cash to splash, one really top player in the team alongside poor to average players and a threadbare squad lacking badly in numbers, I will make a statement now that we are further away from fourth than ever before, the way things are...
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It depends how you choose to perceive it cool flames you choose the worst case scenario or that nothing can be done to improve the situation. I don't know why you bother especially going to anfield. It's bad enough paying £800 when you are hopefull but when you perceive no hope I cannot imagine what is your motivation. I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree because I believe 4th has to be the target next season and I don't care about what spurs Everton or arsenal are up to.
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It depends how you choose to perceive it cool flames you choose the worst case scenario or that nothing can be done to improve the situation. I don't know why you bother especially going to anfield. It's bad enough paying £800 when you are hopefull but when you perceive no hope I cannot imagine what is your motivation. I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree because I believe 4th has to be the target next season and I don't care about what spurs Everton or arsenal are up to. I think you get to a stage going to the game stanley when it becomes a way of life, I have never treated the game as an enjoyment going to the theatre type, day tripping event anyway, its just something I have always done hail, rain or shine mate. I think it's perfectly alrite to have those expectations you have, only problem is there about 5 or 6 seasons out of date, we are not even the same Club from merely 5 years ago with the owners and changes e.t.c. I look at each season like this, we are in a mini league with ourselves, Everton, Newcastle, Fulham, Stoke and West Brom each season, last year Everton won our little mini league and look likely to win it again this season, I would like to think with some serious investment and if the manager can get his finger out a bit we can win our little league next year and maybe win one of the Cups, this for me is ultimate best case scenario for me with regards our Clubs expectation levels, unless ofcorse we got new owners prepared to match the big four pound for pound which in all honesty aint gonna happen...
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Then cool flames you are.a better man than me. I have watched Liverpool for 48 years and I do it fr enjoyment not a way of life. But too be fiair I do know what you mean were I to start from today there is no way I would pay £800 to watch the product at anfield. It is probably because I have aways gone but they day i don't enjoy it is the day I pack in. And hope is part of that enjoyment.
A mate of mine is a city fan do you know how much a season ticket is for the champions ? £500 what an f. Ing rip off anfield is. The difference is Liverpool (unlike city) have a list of people to step into your shoes.
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Then cool flames you are.a better man than me. I have watched Liverpool for 48 years and I do it fr enjoyment not a way of life. But too be fiair I do know what you mean were I to start from today there is no way I would pay £800 to watch the product at anfield. It is probably because I have aways gone but they day i don't enjoy it is the day I pack in. And hope is part of that enjoyment.
A mate of mine is a city fan do you know how much a season ticket is for the champions ? £500 what an f. Ing rip off anfield is. The difference is Liverpool (unlike city) have a list of people to step into your shoes.
yep thats exactly right the way you say it stanley, there is no way I would go the match now if i was just starting, I would rather spend it on another sport where you get better value for your money and your support is far more valued than what the club treats you like now. I still find it hard to understand how the Club charges a Champions League Club price for tickets when we are now a mid table club and have been for the last three seasons and counting, cant wait for a few more seasons of this and watch how the Clubs foreign support drops off due to no success and as we both know there is no younger local fans coming through now so the club will be basicaly screwed...
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They will be screwed and serve them right for being greedy and treating loyal fans like dirt
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Then cool flames you are.a better man than me. I have watched Liverpool for 48 years and I do it fr enjoyment not a way of life. But too be fiair I do know what you mean were I to start from today there is no way I would pay £800 to watch the product at anfield. It is probably because I have aways gone but they day i don't enjoy it is the day I pack in. And hope is part of that enjoyment.
A mate of mine is a city fan do you know how much a season ticket is for the champions ? £500 what an f. Ing rip off anfield is. The difference is Liverpool (unlike city) have a list of people to step into your shoes.
yep thats exactly right the way you say it stanley, there is no way I would go the match now if i was just starting, I would rather spend it on another sport where you get better value for your money and your support is far more valued than what the club treats you like now. I still find it hard to understand how the Club charges a Champions League Club price for tickets when we are now a mid table club and have been for the last three seasons and counting, cant wait for a few more seasons of this and watch how the Clubs foreign support drops off due to no success and as we both know there is no younger local fans coming through now so the club will be basicaly screwed... Like stanley says the prices are so high because we have so many fans worldwide, Thousands of fans that are willing to come and actually enjoy watching liverpool play not just go because they feel obliged to. Reading your comments i honestly dont know why you go to games, it seems like a complete waste of 800 pound to me as you seem to get very little enjoyment put of it.. But hey its your life mate
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Not looking good as things stand tonight. There was talk of improvement recently but too many weaknesses that stand out even during the improvement phase:
- blew a 2 goal lead against the gunners
- shocking against Oldham
- blew a lead against city
- the performance against city was aclaimed, but they've been dropping points recently anyway and got thrashed by Southampton
- our defending against corners, free kicks and crosses is shaky
When we start next season, Carra will be gone; Gerrard will be year older; Reina,Skrtel even Suarez might not be around. We'll suddenly look like a team with very little exeperience and leadership. We might be relying on Henderson and Downing to provide some continuity. Very uncertain times.
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He will only get the money to spend in the summer if he finishes above 8th, otherwise he will have to be sacked as was the case with Dalglish.
I see he is still more interested in gardening after yesterday's game, something about growing a group....tomatoes? No he wont, that's just your opinion. He needs to be given a fair crack of the whip and the same backing in the transfer market as KD got, but that's only my opinion. Is that the same crack of the whip that Kenny got??? Bye Bye Rodgers.
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He will only get the money to spend in the summer if he finishes above 8th, otherwise he will have to be sacked as was the case with Dalglish.
I see he is still more interested in gardening after yesterday's game, something about growing a group....tomatoes? No he wont, that's just your opinion. He needs to be given a fair crack of the whip and the same backing in the transfer market as KD got, but that's only my opinion. Is that the same crack of the whip that Kenny got??? Bye Bye Rodgers. two cup finals for Kenny! But yeah lets give Rodgers time (10 years)
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