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a little touch of the curate's egg about him Please enlighten me ??   I was sceptical when we appointed him, but he's really winning me over. I feel like something positive is being built there. We're buying good young players, instead of over-paying on players who can't be arsed/are no longer up to it, he's improved pretty much every player in the squad since he's arrived and we're giving our academy players more of a chance. One gripe is I would have loved to have seen him give Carroll a chance. Given how he's improved Downing and Henderson in particular I think AC deserved a bit more of an opportunity.
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Interesting deb@te. I suggest th@t whilst we're not @n est@blished top 4 te@m, the cups rem@in very import@nt for v@rious resons:
1. It gives the pl@yers @ t@ste of winning. Not only should th@t m@ke them w@nt more, it should @lso give them @ huge boost of confidence @nd self-belief.
2. It sends sign@l to riv@ls th@t they need to bew@re.
3. It keeps the 'h@ven't won @nything for x ye@rs' monkey off our b@ck.
4. It gives the f@ns soemthing to cheer @bout.
e.g. 1976, 2001, 2005
Kenny getting us to two cup fin@ls, winning one l@st se@son w@s @ stepping stone. If 4th w@sn't @ re@listic t@rget this se@son, then we should've given the cups @ lot more @ttention. Once we're finishing top 4 seson in season out @nd chllenging for the title, th@t's when I think we c@n perh@ps think of signific@nt squ@d rot@tion for the cups. wh@t the f*ck is going on with your keybo@rd? also am not so sure that what you list on points 1,2 and 4 are exclusive to the cups....surely all of those can come from league wins too?
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I was unhappy when BR was appointed for 2 reasons, firstly because he hasn't done much in the game so I had no idea how he would perform and secondly because I think it was wrong to sack a manager who had just started to build a team and had one bad half season in the league (but very good in the cups)
Despite my skepticism, I hoped that it was the right choice. However, I really didn't like what I saw at the beginning of the season and especially what I was hearing (regarding tiki taka, that we should not rely on top centre forwards to win games as the system and midfield player would do the job, etc). I still don't believe that we will be like Barca because this can be done only in Spain, Brazil etc where they have young kids who play like that when they start to kick a ball, in fact it also goes with their physical attributes.
That said, I have noticed an improvement over a bad start of the season and agree that we are playing attractive football. I am still worried with our defence and do not believe in the 433 system, especially against the stronger teams. I think that with our squad and as the league is our main focus, a top 6th finish should be achieved, top 4 will definitely prove to me that BR is the right guy. Therefore, I will make up my mind at the end of the season, for now I will say, improving.
Last edited by vish mauritius; 04/02/13 02:18 PM.
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he blames players rather than
himself for mistakes and seems to be a
bit of a yes man to FSG so overall good
and bad for me...
To be fair he say he takes the blame for the Oldham loss.
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a little touch of the curate's egg about him Please enlighten me ?? I was sceptical when we appointed him, but he's really winning me over. I feel like something positive is being built there. We're buying good young players, instead of over-paying on players who can't be arsed/are no longer up to it, he's improved pretty much every player in the squad since he's arrived and we're giving our academy players more of a chance. One gripe is I would have loved to have seen him give Carroll a chance. Given how he's improved Downing and Henderson in particular I think AC deserved a bit more of an opportunity. Some of his selections and tactics have been poor and cost us points, also he hasn't got to grips with our leaking defence, and then there's his mouth. However I've been a believer in him from them start and I accept that he's doing well with a thin squad and he's learning as evidenced by our last few games. Despite my criticism I will give him thumbs up and I hope he gets a couple of seasons and the appropriate financing from FSG.
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as i put i do think he has improved enrique,henderson,downing turned brad jones into a very decent back up keeper and without a doubt suarez is a miles better player under rodgers than dalglish , ok liverpool have had some terrible performance but also some very good displays deserving more and not getting more , now was rodgers right to play so called weakened teams in the cups ??? some believe he should have played weak teams in the league and just concentrated on the cups , but i do believe he is doing fine and there is very big signs of improvement .
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as i put i do think he has improved enrique,henderson,downing turned brad jones into a very decent back up keeper and without a doubt suarez is a miles better player under rodgers than dalglish , ok liverpool have had some terrible performance but also some very good displays deserving more and not getting more , now was rodgers right to play so called weakened teams in the cups ??? some believe he should have played weak teams in the league and just concentrated on the cups , but i do believe he is doing fine and there is very big signs of improvement . Most players need some time to settle, so I would think they are just playing better as expected. Suarez is MILES better now? I don't agree, he was very good since he arrived, scoring more yes, because he has been playing as a lone striker most of the time this year + last year after the Evra affair, there was a dip in form which can be understood. Indeed, there are big signs of improvement, but mostly over his own start of the season. We did have a few great wins last year, against Chelsea and also against both Manchester clubs in the Cups, but we were quite inconsistent, especially in the league. We are still inconsistent, but getting better. Hopefully we will consistently be better and better.
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Your only wishing he get sacked because you struggle to accept Dalglish was an epic fu-ck up. Might be an idea if you forget him. He is yesterdays manager. He had his chance and ballsed up Definitely not, changing managers every season is the worst thing that can happen to us, the team will never settle and we will have to waste a lot of money we don't have for every new manager to bring his own players to fit his system. I would though like him to earn his place. That was exactly the same reason I didn't want Dalglish sacked, you need to give the manager time but should have milestones to make sure we are progressing. Agree with one thing though, Dalglish is the past, no need to call him an epic [oops] up.
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Madness to employ dalglish but its the past now move on.
Which I think we are doing
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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a little touch of the curate's egg about him Please enlighten me ?? I was sceptical when we appointed him, but he's really winning me over. I feel like something positive is being built there. We're buying good young players, instead of over-paying on players who can't be arsed/are no longer up to it, he's improved pretty much every player in the squad since he's arrived and we're giving our academy players more of a chance. One gripe is I would have loved to have seen him give Carroll a chance. Given how he's improved Downing and Henderson in particular I think AC deserved a bit more of an opportunity. Some of his selections and tactics have been poor and cost us points, also he hasn't got to grips with our leaking defence, and then there's his mouth. However I've been a believer in him from them start and I accept that he's doing well with a thin squad and he's learning as evidenced by our last few games. Despite my criticism I will give him thumbs up and I hope he gets a couple of seasons and the appropriate financing from FSG. Agree with all your points, however, I was looking for enlightenment regarding the 'curate's egg' phrase. Never heard such an idiom (is it an idiom ??) before. About time this forum got a bit more verbose
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