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yesterday was fantastic in terms of performance. sturridge i am shocked at, didn't think he had that in him. so big thumbs up there to BR
the not letting in goals thing is BR's big challenge. He has to address the spine of the team. GK,CH, and CM.
If he can get those positions filled with experienced pro's and not lightweights then we can win things.
signings of allen and borini look like a waste of money. sahin was too ,hopefully coutino ain't.
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The cups meant for more than today. I remember as a kid the whole country stopped for the fa cup final now it much devalued. Likewise te fairs cup now the Europa was a massive completion. If shanks was in charge today I am confident it would be the champions league he would be focussing on i don't think he would tho Stanley, I think Shanks would want the fans wanted which is cups and glory rather than champions league money. I think we have to accept that cups are our only chance of any success now, we need to cut our cloth accordingly and accept we will no longer win Leagues and European cups, unless ofcorse we get owners in who are prepared to match City, United, Chelsea, Barca, Madrid and PSG of this world...
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maybe we just need to give the new buys time? Allen was our best player for 10games or more, this shows the ability is there. However he like Henderson are young and with youth comes lack of consistency. I cannot think of one player who has not improved under BR,that alone states that he is being succesful in coaching the team. If players continue to develop then we can have a good enough squad to compete over a full season.
That was probably our most experienced 11 yesterday and it showed in terms of quality and composure. Placing one or two young players in the 11 is the way forward to future success.
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He will only get the money to spend in the summer if he finishes above 8th, otherwise he will have to be sacked as was the case with Dalglish.
I see he is still more interested in gardening after yesterday's game, something about growing a group....tomatoes? No he wont, that's just your opinion. He needs to be given a fair crack of the whip and the same backing in the transfer market as KD got, but that's only my opinion. Not my opinion, a precedent has been set. Also he has spent 50m...
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Overall Rodgers is doing ok, a little touch of the curate's egg about him, but things are improving. His focus on defense could be his weak spot I fear, as we continue to give away silly goals and we did it again yesterday. That hill towards 4th has just got a little steeper, but if Spurs slip a little we might just about make it yet, but...
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Overall Rodgers is doing ok, a little touch of the curate's egg about him, but things are improving. His focus on defense could be his weak spot I fear, as we continue to give away silly goals and we did it again yesterday. That hill towards 4th has just got a little steeper, but if Spurs slip a little we might just about make it yet, but... Think Everton and Arsenal will both have a little say in who finishes 4th if Spurs falter and both look like they can win more than two on the spin...
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The cups meant for more than today. I remember as a kid the whole country stopped for the fa cup final now it much devalued. Likewise te fairs cup now the Europa was a massive completion. If shanks was in charge today I am confident it would be the champions league he would be focussing on i don't think he would tho Stanley, I think Shanks would want the fans wanted which is cups and glory rather than champions league money. I think we have to accept that cups are our only chance of any success now, we need to cut our cloth accordingly and accept we will no longer win Leagues and European cups, unless ofcorse we get owners in who are prepared to match City, United, Chelsea, Barca, Madrid and PSG of this world... If that was what shanks wanted were he manager in 2013 he would not last 5 minutes in the modern game which is totally commercial and about finance. I agree he would be horrified the way the game has gone and he loved to bring the game to the people but as we know that world is now long gone. I can only speak for myself the FA cup, carling, and europa are nice but they are bonuses for me over the main event the league positioning and champions league. The day the cups are our only target is the day we are finished I have not given up on the club just yet.
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The cups meant for more than today. I remember as a kid the whole country stopped for the fa cup final now it much devalued. Likewise te fairs cup now the Europa was a massive completion. If shanks was in charge today I am confident it would be the champions league he would be focussing on i don't think he would tho Stanley, I think Shanks would want the fans wanted which is cups and glory rather than champions league money. I think we have to accept that cups are our only chance of any success now, we need to cut our cloth accordingly and accept we will no longer win Leagues and European cups, unless ofcorse we get owners in who are prepared to match City, United, Chelsea, Barca, Madrid and PSG of this world... If that was what shanks wanted were he manager in 2013 he would not last 5 minutes in the modern game which is totally commercial and about finance. I agree he would be horrified the way the game has gone and he loved to bring the game to the people but as we know that world is now long gone. I can only speak for myself the FA cup, carling, and europa are nice but they are bonuses for me over the main event the league positioning and champions league. The day the cups are our only target is the day we are finished I have not given up on the club just yet. Well said that Stanley and I fully agree with all you've said there, times have moved on and we must move with it, and I believe Shanks would have moved on also. I hate the fumbling in the greasy till myself but that's how it is at least for now.
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in the past two weeks, since someone else opened a thread posing a similar question, my opinion hasn't changed. think he's doing ok. i enjoy watching us more than i have done in a long time.
happy to still be in 7th after the run of away league matches we had. in the next few weeks we have an opportunity to close the gap on teams in front of us. i think that we'll finish 5th or 6th. in terms of a first season (with the dead wood we had on the books when br took over, in terms of fsg's efforts to balance the books, the fact that we finished 8th last season and that alot of young players have had alot of game time), it's been good.
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Interesting deb@te. I suggest th@t whilst we're not @n est@blished top 4 te@m, the cups rem@in very import@nt for v@rious resons:
1. It gives the pl@yers @ t@ste of winning. Not only should th@t m@ke them w@nt more, it should @lso give them @ huge boost of confidence @nd self-belief.
2. It sends sign@l to riv@ls th@t they need to bew@re.
3. It keeps the 'h@ven't won @nything for x ye@rs' monkey off our b@ck.
4. It gives the f@ns soemthing to cheer @bout.
e.g. 1976, 2001, 2005
Kenny getting us to two cup fin@ls, winning one l@st se@son w@s @ stepping stone. If 4th w@sn't @ re@listic t@rget this se@son, then we should've given the cups @ lot more @ttention. Once we're finishing top 4 seson in season out @nd chllenging for the title, th@t's when I think we c@n perh@ps think of signific@nt squ@d rot@tion for the cups.
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'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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