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Take the question from a purely logical point of view and not accounting for rivalries, there is no doubt that from a long term LFC point of view, Everton are the best team to qualify for the champions league this season for a few reasons
- they are heavily in debt and so the vast majority of the money they earn wouldn't go towards that presumably
- they don't have a high wage structure and are unlikely to break that due to qualifying for the Champions League for one season.
- they will not spend big money on transfers and so will not get the type of players like Suarez for 20mil plus.
- they still have a relatively small squad and competing on two fronts would be difficult for them and retaining 4th spot would be extremely difficult, particularly as they would not be competing against teams with less resources than themselves
Now imagine if Spurs get 4th
- Already have a very good squad and a chairman who is not afraid to spend big money and wages on players and would only invest further in players if they qualified.
- would probably retain Bale for at least another season
- will be there or there abouts for 4th place regardless
No one wants Everton to do well or is actively supporting them but thinking about it from a purely football point of view and not taking locality or rivalry into account, Everton qualifiying for the Champions League would be better for LFC's prospects of getting 4th in the following seasons whats the point of thinking logicically? we dont have the clubs best interest at heart nor do we know whats good for the club because we werent born in liverpool  That would be funnier if he didn't actually believe it.
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Even if Everton qualified for the champions league they are a long way behind Liverpool economically. It would be many years before a gap opened up and it's hard to see us staying behind them for any sustained period given our better resources. stanley the gap is closing mate, years of overspending, shrinking fanbase due to lack of success and a non existstant local match going fanbase had taken its toll over the years. I am not saying we are worryingly close but the gap is deffo closing, I think the way things are going with us spending 12, 15 and 20 million pounds on players and giving them Between 50 and 140 quid a week in wages and finishing in 7th or 8th place in the league not to mention shelling out the second highest outlay in agents fees is a terrible business plan, continue the way we are and were going down the Portsmouth, Leeds United and Rangers route as we are spending beyond our means, Everton on the other hand run a tight ship and very rarely spend money they don't have, this is why the gap is closing... I think you make some reasonable points but we are not like Portsmouth etc because we do make a trading profit and FSG have done much to reduce the wage percentage to turnover. Much as a criticise FSG I cannot see them doing a Peter ridsdale
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Even if Everton qualified for the champions league they are a long way behind Liverpool economically. It would be many years before a gap opened up and it's hard to see us staying behind them for any sustained period given our better resources. stanley the gap is closing mate, years of overspending, shrinking fanbase due to lack of success and a non existstant local match going fanbase had taken its toll over the years. I am not saying we are worryingly close but the gap is deffo closing, I think the way things are going with us spending 12, 15 and 20 million pounds on players and giving them Between 50 and 140 quid a week in wages and finishing in 7th or 8th place in the league not to mention shelling out the second highest outlay in agents fees is a terrible business plan, continue the way we are and were going down the Portsmouth, Leeds United and Rangers route as we are spending beyond our means, Everton on the other hand run a tight ship and very rarely spend money they don't have, this is why the gap is closing... spending beyond our means would be spending close to 90% and beyond of turnover on wages. We have a sustainable business plan and are in no danger of doing a Portsmouth
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Even if Everton qualified for the champions league they are a long way behind Liverpool economically. It would be many years before a gap opened up and it's hard to see us staying behind them for any sustained period given our better resources. stanley the gap is closing mate, years of overspending, shrinking fanbase due to lack of success and a non existstant local match going fanbase had taken its toll over the years. I am not saying we are worryingly close but the gap is deffo closing, I think the way things are going with us spending 12, 15 and 20 million pounds on players and giving them Between 50 and 140 quid a week in wages and finishing in 7th or 8th place in the league not to mention shelling out the second highest outlay in agents fees is a terrible business plan, continue the way we are and were going down the Portsmouth, Leeds United and Rangers route as we are spending beyond our means, Everton on the other hand run a tight ship and very rarely spend money they don't have, this is why the gap is closing... I think you make some reasonable points but we are not like Portsmouth etc because we do make a trading profit and FSG have done much to reduce the wage percentage to turnover. Much as a criticise FSG I cannot see them doing a Peter ridsdale Stanley, we have a champions league Clubs outgoings and a mid table Clubs incomings as regarding League positon, how on earth can this be sustainable especialy when Everton, Stoke or West Brom are in no position to do it and there the same as us, unless ofcorse you still clinging on to dear life of our past history somehow setting us apart...
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Everton, Stoke or West Brom don't have near our revenue and you're just wumming again about this because this is constantly pointed out to you
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But we do not have mid table incoming do we? Sponsorship on a par with man utd and sell out every game and the most e expensive tickets in the north west. Everton have nothing comparable and FSG have far more money and bill kenwright to invest.
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[quote=Maxi88]Everton, Stoke or West Brom don't have near our revenue and you're just wumming again about this because this is constantly pointed out to you [/quote
Yes I fall into his trap time and time again]
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Here's nother thought. I think part of Everton's lack of global appeal is their name. So how about this: - Everton qualify for CL - This attracts a buyer - Buyer comes in and changes name from Everton to Liverpool United - The name portrays Everton as 'the people's club' for the whole city - It also muddles the identity of LFC, especially globally - With Liverpool United being the more 'hungry' entity, in contrast to LFC which is perceived as bogged down due to ghosts od past gloeies, Liverpool United go on to bigger things Is that a totally cloud cuckoo land scenario? 
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The first two points would be possible but would Evertonians want to change their name?
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Here's nother thought. I think part of Everton's lack of global appeal is their name. So how about this: - Everton qualify for CL - This attracts a buyer - Buyer comes in and changes name from Everton to Liverpool United - The name portrays Everton as 'the people's club' for the whole city - It also muddles the identity of LFC, especially globally - With Liverpool United being the more 'hungry' entity, in contrast to LFC which is perceived as bogged down due to ghosts od past gloeies, Liverpool United go on to bigger things Is that a totally cloud cuckoo land scenario? Sounds like you've got too much time on your hands 
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