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#303195 21/01/13 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: coolflames
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Why is it so hard to believe that people who weren't born in Liverpool don't get quite as riled by the LFC/EFC rivalry?
Do you really need to spend a whole thread questioning it?

We get it, some of you guys, by pure coincidence, were born in Liverpool. Some weren't. It's an international game now, go with it.

Funny how some claim 'sentimentality has killed the club' but they're more interested in a local rival doing badly than the overall future of the club (potentially).

And yes Joe, claiming you don't like an entire country of people because they happen to be born within it's boundaries, IS xenophobic. You're certainly 'old school'.
disagree with you there, where you are from defines you, it makes you who you are, I happen to think Liverpool people are different from anywhere else in the country, as an example, the way the people of the City fought against Hillsborough in my opinion would never of happend anywhere else but that's my opinion and I am entitled to it


Not everyone who died or who suffered in Hillsborough was from Liverpool and certaintly not from the city boundary (where you define Liverpool from) and as a person involved in the aftermath I can tell you for sure people from all over the country rallied around particlarly the north west and in particular Manchester. Of all the things you have posted that is the most effensive using Hillsborough to support one of your posts which is a nonesense post anyway. I am disgusted in you and I know that will bring a smile to your face because you love the fuel of confrontation and there is nothing you wont use.


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Originally Posted By: OmegaRed
Originally Posted By: coolflames
Originally Posted By: OmegaRed
Why is it so hard to believe that people who weren't born in Liverpool don't get quite as riled by the LFC/EFC rivalry?
Do you really need to spend a whole thread questioning it?

We get it, some of you guys, by pure coincidence, were born in Liverpool. Some weren't. It's an international game now, go with it.

Funny how some claim 'sentimentality has killed the club' but they're more interested in a local rival doing badly than the overall future of the club (potentially).

And yes Joe, claiming you don't like an entire country of people because they happen to be born within it's boundaries, IS xenophobic. You're certainly 'old school'.
disagree with you there, where you are from defines you, it makes you who you are, I happen to think Liverpool people are different from anywhere else in the country, as an example, the way the people of the City fought against Hillsborough in my opinion would never of happend anywhere else but that's my opinion and I am entitled to it


We'll have to agree to disagree then. I think it's sad you feel everyone is defined by the place they just happen to be born in, or live in - which one is it?

I like to feel I have a lot more to define myself by than the boundaries of the town or city that by sheer coincidence I just happen to be born in. I feel no closer to a guy who lives down the street than someone living half way round the world.

Patriotism's always baffeld me.
I guess this explains your hostility towards out of towners and foreigners in general. All good though, your call.


Fantastic post Omega completely agree

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: coolflames
Originally Posted By: OmegaRed
Why is it so hard to believe that people who weren't born in Liverpool don't get quite as riled by the LFC/EFC rivalry?
Do you really need to spend a whole thread questioning it?

We get it, some of you guys, by pure coincidence, were born in Liverpool. Some weren't. It's an international game now, go with it.

Funny how some claim 'sentimentality has killed the club' but they're more interested in a local rival doing badly than the overall future of the club (potentially).

And yes Joe, claiming you don't like an entire country of people because they happen to be born within it's boundaries, IS xenophobic. You're certainly 'old school'.
disagree with you there, where you are from defines you, it makes you who you are, I happen to think Liverpool people are different from anywhere else in the country, as an example, the way the people of the City fought against Hillsborough in my opinion would never of happend anywhere else but that's my opinion and I am entitled to it


Not everyone who died or who suffered in Hillsborough was from Liverpool and certaintly not from the city boundary (where you define Liverpool from) and as a person involved in the aftermath I can tell you for sure people from all over the country rallied around particlarly the north west and in particular Manchester. Of all the things you have posted that is the most effensive using Hillsborough to support one of your posts which is a nonesense post anyway. I am disgusted in you and I know that will bring a smile to your face because you love the fuel of confrontation and there is nothing you wont use.
stanley, grow up mate, stop being a drama queen, Hillsborough and the injustice the City and People faced is part of the point I am making and for your information I was there too so don't talk like you were the only one there, to witness what went on...

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coolflames you've bin exposed leave it at that we all know the truth now its ok though some of us expected

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Originally Posted By: IanHorgo
coolflames you've bin exposed leave it at that we all know the truth now its ok though some of us expected
think your getting me mixed up with yourself there, your the person who has been exposed for having a dislike for Jews and supporting right wing Italien Clubs...

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Cool flames I find your posts offensive to say people from Liverpool are better thn those from elsewhere are by definition inferior offensive. I am was at hillsborough.and at the time lived in northwich does that make my position different. My recollections are different to yours I remember fans from all over Britain ralling round and this stil goes on today st the memorial. Andy burnham who dd so much to open the new enquiry is from Leigh is his contribution diminished because tht that? Frankly your next ban is well overdue now with comments like that.


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+1 Stan.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Cool flames I find your posts offensive to say people from Liverpool are better thn those from elsewhere are by definition inferior offensive. I am was at hillsborough.and at the time lived in northwich does that make my position different. My recollections are different to yours I remember fans from all over Britain ralling round and this stil goes on today st the memorial. Andy burnham who dd so much to open the new enquiry is from Leigh is his contribution diminished because tht that? Frankly your next ban is well overdue now with comments like that.
stanley How do you get by in life being such a drama queen, if me and the points I have made offend you then you seriously have problems mate. Hillsborough and the fight for justice was based and fought from the City of Liverpool including the council, politicians, Mayors and even the Archbishop, I have never said people from
Outside never played a part just that it was mostly based In Liverpool, even the Prime Minister in his apology said it was an injustice to the City and people of Liverpool. My other point about people from the city is true, Liverpool people are different than Manchester, Manchester different to Stoke, Marseille people different from Paris and Naples different from Milan, if you think all Cities and there people are the same you obviously haven't traveled,hope this clears things up, and mentioning bans stanley is a bit classless mate even for you as you know there are people on here lookin for any reason to jump on me, thought better of u than that mate...

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Where a person is from can be a fundamental part of who they are, but it is not ever grounds to hate someone. Saying that your own place of birth makes you superior somehow is dangerous thinking. You can be proud of who you are and where you're from, but it doesn't make you a good person, and being from somewhere else doesn't make you less of a person. There's a difference between patriotism and geocentricism.

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Originally Posted By: redordead13
Where a person is from can be a fundamental part of who they are, but it is not ever grounds to hate someone. Saying that your own place of birth makes you superior somehow is dangerous thinking. You can be proud of who you are and where you're from, but it doesn't make you a good person, and being from somewhere else doesn't make you less of a person. There's a difference between patriotism and geocentricism.
exactly and I have never used the word hate or said a person is better because they come from somewhere, all I have ever said is we are different and I am proud to say Liverpool City is unique and like no other, nothing more nothing less...

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